Anglo-Saxon Hats

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Anglo-Saxon Hats

Postby Morglay » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:01 pm

I'd like to know where to get a hat and a belt of the later A/S period.


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Postby Morglay » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:36 pm

Sally,can you give me a link to,or a picture of,the styles of hats of that period.
I take it that you want the circumference of my head??? If so,I'll have to find the tape measure :? .


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Postby Morglay » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:44 am

My main interest is reading history,but I've a lot to learn abou A/S dress.

"What date and region exactly are you wanting?" Sally

Wessex,late saxon.up to the Battle of Hastings.


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Postby sally » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:46 am

I'll have a dig around when I get back from the NLHF and see if I can find some images for you to see what could be done. In the meantime, if you see a pic of what you want just let me know



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Postby WorkMonkey » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:56 pm

Aren't the phyrigian caps (whatever they were) pretty generic for the whole mid saxon period?


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Postby sally » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:29 pm

I believe so, but now I know what the area and date is I can see if I can narrow down any alternatives. Been a while since I did anything Saxon so I'm assuming my knowledge is a bit rusty and might not reflect all the current thinking :D



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Postby Gyrthofhwicce » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:14 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:Aren't the phyrigian caps (whatever they were) pretty generic for the whole mid saxon period?


Indeed they are my Simian nemesis. however a good widebrimmed straw hat is also acceptable for toiling in the fields.


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Postby WorkMonkey » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:52 pm

Straw hats? In middle-Saxon? Are you sure squire?


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Postby Morglay » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:05 pm

I saw a lot of hats at battle,like the ones on the links below

http://www.wulfingas.co.uk/

http://www.combrogi.org/


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Postby Neil of Ormsheim » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:26 pm

The two behatted bodies carrying the corpse in the Wuffingas phot are wearing phrygian caps (known to some as phriggin bonnets! :D ). These ones are made from woven wool but can also be made from felt. The felt ones are brilliant in winter and can double up as padded helmet liners but - be warned - drink lots before you do this as your head will leak gallons of sweat.

As for the wide brimmed straw hats, you'd better believe it! Check the illustrated manuscripts, monks, nuns and labourers out in the fields all wearing them. Anyone who has suffered from sunstroke, or even just bad sunburn to the back if the neck or bald spot, will tell you the importance of having a nice broad brimmed hat to shade the bonce from the sun.


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Postby Aelfric » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:03 pm

Neil of Ormsheim wrote:As for the wide brimmed straw hats, you'd better believe it! Check the illustrated manuscripts, monks, nuns and labourers out in the fields all wearing them. Anyone who has suffered from sunstroke, or even just bad sunburn to the back if the neck or bald spot, will tell you the importance of having a nice broad brimmed hat to shade the bonce from the sun.


Could you point me in the direction of period straw hat illustrations as I've been looking for a while?
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Postby Gyrthofhwicce » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:21 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:Straw hats? In middle-Saxon? Are you sure squire?


Indded i am young Minkey, a nice straw hat is good for what ails ya.


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Postby Dingo8MyBaby » Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:31 pm

There was also a form of hat worn by officials at the kings court - looked like a large cone. I can't remember the ref, its been 15 years shice I was interested in AS clothing and stuff.

Gyrthofhwicce wrote:
WorkMonkey wrote:Straw hats? In middle-Saxon? Are you sure squire?


Indded i am young Minkey, a nice straw hat is good for what ails ya.


There are quite a few illustrations of then circa 1100-1155, commonly worn by field workers.



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Postby Aelfric » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:24 pm

Dingo8MyBaby wrote:There was also a form of hat worn by officials at the kings court - looked like a large cone. I can't remember the ref, its been 15 years shice I was interested in AS clothing and stuff.


Ethelred's witan I think.

Dingo8MyBaby wrote:There are quite a few illustrations of then circa 1100-1155, commonly worn by field workers.


Didn't think there was anything pre conquest in that line though, love to be proved wrong as a straw hat would have been great last July :lol: .



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Postby egfroth » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:14 am

The earliest illustrations I know of that show brimmed straw hats are mid-late 12th century, not pre-Conquest. If you have information to contradict that, I'd be very interested (as I'd love to wear one myself!)



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Postby WorkMonkey » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:26 pm

Yeah I'd never heard of, or seen a picture of a straw preconquest.


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Postby Brendan C » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:12 pm

Gyrthofhwicce wrote:
WorkMonkey wrote:Straw hats? In middle-Saxon? Are you sure squire?


Indded i am young Minkey, a nice straw hat is good for what ails ya.


Have to admit Gyrth, if you have a manuscript piccie showing straw hats pre-conquest, would love to have a look

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