Black Leather ?

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Black Leather ?

Postby Bad Viking » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:32 am

In the Dark Ages I'm led to believe that black leather didn't exist ! :o
anyone got any info on this -


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Postby Anthony of the MSS » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:36 am

That's my understanding but evidence wise I'll have to dig some out.



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Re: Black Leather ?

Postby Bad Viking » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:44 am

Thank you Anthony ! .. :D


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Re: Black Leather ?

Postby Redbullgivesuwind » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:36 pm

Well it was very dark so you could never have seen someone wearing it......sorry I couldn't resist :$



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Re: Black Leather ?

Postby Flinty » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:31 pm

I'm under the impression it was to do with dying the leather, as there is very little natural black leather?



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Re: Black Leather ?

Postby tarvae » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:25 pm

I don't know anything definative but from experience of wearing a knife in a leather sheath round my neck on a cord - the leather, no matter how thoroughly dyed/waxed/proofed will end up black really quite fast. I'm guessing it is a combo of ironoxide/salt/acids?



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Re: Black Leather ?

Postby Wayland » Mon Apr 06, 2015 11:07 pm

Iron Oxide and the tannins used to make leather during this period will soon stain wet leather to a dark grey colour. Once oiled or greased the colour looks close to black but is not quite the deep, dark, blue black that modern dyes produce.

In practice the colour is close but is generally discouraged because of the more recent history of re-enactment groups, some of which emerged from little more than biker groups that were up for a bit of a scrap, using history as a good excuse.

( I hasten to add that I'm not thinking of any particular group when I say that, but things were very different 40 years ago.)

Most leather workers agree that such rules are a bit outdated but are maintained because there is a certain "look" that people are used to now.

I would say that if you produce "black" leather using iron and natural tanned leather then fair enough but avoid modern dyes or pre dyed black leather unless you want your leatherwork to be given a red card.


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