6th century AS sword guard and pommels

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6th century AS sword guard and pommels

Postby Harlequin » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:40 pm

Anyone know of any examples of 6th Saxon swords from England where they they didn't have organic materials in the guard and pommel?

What I am really wondering if any had solid metal fittings?

A reference would be very nice... and a picture would be lovely.



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Postby chrisanson » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:42 pm

monkey boy should be here any time soon :roll:



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Postby Harlequin » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:52 pm

Should I leave a banana out?



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Postby chrisanson » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:39 pm

Harlequin wrote:Should I leave a banana out?



no, no just talk about shiny things . he'll tern up with some sort of coment :wink:



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Re: 6th century AS sword guard and pommels

Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:17 am

Harlequin wrote:
What I am really wondering if any had solid metal fittings?


Nope, they've all got organic elements, usually more organic stuff than metal.


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Postby WorkMonkey » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:41 am

Dont speak to the moneky, speak to the organ grinder :wink:

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Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:42 am

WorkMonkey wrote:Dont speak to the moneky, speak to the organ grinder :wink:

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I have NEVER ground your organ.

Other than that, good point and well presented. :wink:


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Postby WorkMonkey » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:44 am

well presented? I spelt monkey wrong! :x


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Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:01 am

WorkMonkey wrote:well presented? I spelt monkey wrong! :x


I know, but I like to give you points for effort.


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Postby Harlequin » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:45 pm

And I will give you points for answering my question (even with the spelling mistake).

Thank you.

Now I just have to decide is I should order a sharp instead...



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Postby chrisanson » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:18 pm

see? what did i say? :roll:



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Postby Harlequin » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:13 pm

Aye, your wisdom knows no bounds and we should sacrifice many virgin goats to sate your unholy desires and feed your uncanny prophecies.



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Postby WorkMonkey » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:33 am

Why have a sharp? Unless its gonna be all pattern welded and everything it aint gonna be propa' like, so get a blunt and fight with a group, much more fun then having a pretty stuck on your wall. 8)


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Postby Medicus Matt » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:41 pm

What the monkey said...

St Albans is prime Britannia turf.


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Postby Sir Fletcher Phelps » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:37 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:What the monkey said...

St Albans is prime Britannia turf.


Yeah, like that's gonna encourage him :roll: :lol:


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Postby Medicus Matt » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:53 pm

Sir Fletcher Phelps wrote:
Yeah, like that's gonna encourage him :roll: :lol:


We'll just have to send the 'snatch' squad in. :wink:


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Postby chrisanson » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:38 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:Dont speak to the moneky, speak to the organ grinder :wink:

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dont know how i missed this!!!! you are very naughty monkey. i will have revenge :wink: good un though 8)



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Postby Harlequin » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:36 pm

You know I had completely forgotten about pattern-welding. At the moment then, the sharp is also out.

Curse you, Monkey for bringing historical accuracy into the debate.

I don't want to buy a sword that's going to to be inaccurate (ie not pattern welded blade or not perishable handle).

I might have to go back to a spear.



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Postby WorkMonkey » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:10 am

Just get a blunt with organic/bronze sandwich upper and lower guards then. Dont get wood though, the wood in mine split after a few weeks and I had to get it replaced with horn.


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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:43 pm

What the monkey said.
What's the problem with getting a combat blade with organic hilt components? Having run a society for 8 years where EVERYONE had a sword with organic hilt components I'm happy to say that they're fine for fighting.

Why?

1) Firstly because the organic elements in a metal/organic/metal hilt fitting absorbs the energy from the blow quite nicely...less of it is transmitted to your hand/arm than you get with all metal hilts.

2) They don't take that much damage anyway because YOU BLOCK YOUR OPPONENTS WEAPON WITH YOUR SHIELD, NOT YOUR SWORD. YOU'RE NOT IN A BLOODY FILM YOU KNOW?

'Scuse the shouting. :wink:


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Postby WorkMonkey » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:20 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:
2) They don't take that much damage anyway because YOU BLOCK YOUR OPPONENTS WEAPON WITH YOUR SHIELD, NOT YOUR SWORD. YOU'RE NOT IN A BLOODY FILM YOU KNOW?


And if you've lost your shield you block shots with your other arm, because you dont really need two anyway, then when their blade is snagged in the tendons of your shoulder and they're shouting "botty" you chop off their head and wee down their neck...


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Postby chrisanson » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:50 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:
Medicus Matt wrote:
2) They don't take that much damage anyway because YOU BLOCK YOUR OPPONENTS WEAPON WITH YOUR SHIELD, NOT YOUR SWORD. YOU'RE NOT IN A BLOODY FILM YOU KNOW?


And if you've lost your shield you block shots with your other arm, because you dont really need two anyway, then when their blade is snagged in the tendons of your shoulder and they're shouting "botty" you chop off their head and wee down their neck...




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Postby WorkMonkey » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:57 pm

Hey man, I could have cut your head off and weed down your neck last night, but did I? No! Because I kind of like you!


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Postby chrisanson » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:58 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:Hey man, I could have cut your head off and weed down your neck last night, but did I? No! Because I kind of like you!



some how i think not monkeyboy :twisted:



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Postby Mark Sanderson » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:25 am

I've been watching this thread with interest and I can only add...

Fight. Fight. Fight!

Not that I wish to incite a flame war between Work Monkey and Chrisanson

I'll keep me neb out and get back to some work.


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Postby m300572 » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:35 pm

Not that I wish to incite a flame war between Work Monkey and Chrisanson


Why not - it entertains the rest of us. Give the boy a banana! :twisted:


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Postby Medicus Matt » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:27 pm

Woudln't be much of a fight.

Gimli's getting on a bit and Monkeyboy tires quickly.


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Postby Hobbitstomper » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:52 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:
1) Firstly because the organic elements in a metal/organic/metal hilt fitting absorbs the energy from the blow quite nicely...less of it is transmitted to your hand/arm than you get with all metal hilts.



But my organic hilted sword felt dead compared to an all steel blade. Probably didn't help that the blade itself was rubbish but it went thud instead of spring.



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Postby WorkMonkey » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:55 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:
Gimli's getting on a bit and Monkeyboy tires quickly.


huzzah, not anymore, monkeyboy kept going when all the other energizer bunnies had gone in for tea this week.


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Postby Medicus Matt » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:59 pm

In that case I look forward to giving you another lesson in economy of movement, Cohen the Barbarian style.


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