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Kapok?

Postby Shadowcat » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 pm

Tuppence just recommended using kapok to stuff a dress form shape. I can't buy kapok from my shops in London - EU regulations to do with not inherently fire retardant! (HA!) Anyone got a source?

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Postby Dave B » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:16 pm

Kapok is old fashioned teddy stuffing. surely a modern teddy stuffing would work as well. 'hollowfill' sleeping bag stuffing feels quite similar in terms of squishiness.


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Postby Shadowcat » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:22 pm

It doesn't actually feel the same. I am now using toy stuffing, but for bustle pads and bum rolls, kapok is better, as it packs differently. Also the synthetics can be very "sweaty" whereas kapok, being a natural fibre, was not so bad.

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Postby gregory23b » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:41 pm

New world product, we used in school for stuffing toys.

Would prefer to use wool rather than kapok or un-spun cotton (kapok is kind of similar-ish).

Geirge Weil - AKA fibrecrafts sell Kapok IIRC.


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Postby Tuppence » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:12 am

not sure of kapok supplier these days - last lot I got was from Fenwicks in Newcastle, but that was ages ago.

shipping might be an issue, but if you talk nicely to a certain leeds wool mill, they will sometimes let you have raw wool.

modern synthetic toy stuffing is too squishy - doesn't feel at all the same.

(lightweight kids these days - my teddy is stuffed with lime wood :lol: )


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Postby Annie the Pedlar » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:00 am

Shadowcat - apparently I now live close to Fibrecrafts. I'll keep an eye out when I get round to exploring in that direction but Kapok doesn't seem to be in their catalogue. Raw cotton is.

Hey I've found some used as nesting material in zoos
http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/birds/bird_cages_and_accessories/cage_accessories/nesting/14335
Must be small bags as its £1 something.

And these
F Harding Macclesfield Cheshire SK11 6QJ
H T Gaddum & co Macclesfield Cheshire SK10 1EF
Cowens Ltd Carlisle CA5 7QJ Cumbria
Fibre Fillings Bolton Lancashire BL4 7JE
Visions of ware houses stuffed to the rafters with kapok.



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Postby Shadowcat » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:31 am

Thanks for that - I'll be in touch with the Zoo people and see what I can find.

I find it funny that we can't buy it for people rleated items, but can for animals/birds! Huh! :?:



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Postby John Waller » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:13 am

Annie,
Drop me a line if you want to know how to find Fibrecrafts. It's close to where I live between Guildford and Godalming hidden behind a petrol station. Well worth a visit if you are into dyeing, spinning, weaving etc. Come round for a cuppa if you like.

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Postby Annie the Pedlar » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:30 pm

Wow thanks :D
So far I've found, in this order - you have to get your priorities right - the fabric and craft shop in North Camp, the pub in Guildford, the Tesco's as big as Disney World (waste of time - it takes all day to walk up and down the aisles and remember where you parked :? ), and today the Aldershot Tesco's where the cashier was very friendly and chatty and the lad at the petrol station was uber polite. I reckon I could get to like that one. :wink:



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Postby m300572 » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:50 pm

Kapok doesn't seem to be in their catalogue. Raw cotton is


I thought kapok was raw cotton, with the seeds still in.



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Postby John Waller » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 pm

m300572 wrote:
Kapok doesn't seem to be in their catalogue. Raw cotton is


I thought kapok was raw cotton, with the seeds still in.


You thought wrong. It grows on trees you know!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapok


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Postby Starshadow » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:07 pm

I'm sure they used to sell it at Dainty Supplies in Washington (Tyne & Wear). At least I was told they did when I was looking for some to make a padded jack which I still haven't got round to making... :oops:


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Postby Shadowcat » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:12 pm

I used to be able to buy it in all the places I normally frequent, including Whaley's of Bradford, John Lewis, MacCulloch's, Klein's, but now, due to the *%7** E U regulations they are not allowed to sell it for use in toys. Therefore I cannot use it for padding for adults! Doh!

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Postby Annie the Pedlar » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:35 am

Found some :P :P :P
£10 a kilo in The Handweaver's Studio, Haroldstone Road, London, E17 7AN
I would have got some for you but I was packed to the gunnels by the time I got there and couldn't carry another thing.
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Postby m300572 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:25 am

You thought wrong. It grows on trees you know!


I stand corrected. Ta! :D



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Postby Tuppence » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:00 pm

John Waller wrote:
m300572 wrote:
Kapok doesn't seem to be in their catalogue. Raw cotton is


I thought kapok was raw cotton, with the seeds still in.


You thought wrong. It grows on trees you know!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapok


Have you ever seen the fifteenth century drawing of a cotton tree??

Or the description of it?

Apparently they used to think that a cotton tree had little sheep growing on the ends of the branches, and that as their coats grew thicker the boughs of the tree got closer to the ground so you could harvest the cotton wool.

Forget the exact details, but from one of those sir such and such's travels of the world books in the mid c15th.


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Postby KSBIII » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:29 pm

Tuppence wrote:Forget the exact details, but from one of those sir such and such's travels of the world books in the mid c15th.


Sir JohnMandeville?

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Postby gregory23b » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:40 pm

"Apparently they used to think that a cotton tree had little sheep growing on the ends of the branches, and that as their coats grew thicker the boughs of the tree got closer to the ground so you could harvest the cotton wool."

That is ace, please point me to the origina text, i want to write that one up.


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Postby Annie the Pedlar » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:03 pm

Greg - you've just GOT to do a picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Postby gregory23b » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:10 am

I would love to.

I can see it now, lots of little sheep dangling and being plucked....

re Kapok, for some reason I thought I saw it in the Fibrecrafts catalogue, can't find it on re-reading it, but it came up recently, maybe online.....ah well we used at primary school for stuffing toys.


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Postby Sophia » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:57 am

Jorge,

If you did a picture like that or even better a woodcut I would just have to buy it or even two if they weren't too expensive.

For various reasons associated with Mountain Biking (namely a cartoon sheep called Mint Sauce - ask Cleggy he might know about him) my brother has bought/been given things with sheep on for years. I think such an image would be a great addition to his collection plus I wouldn't mind one myself. After all a Medieval Tailor should have pictures of their sources around the place.

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Postby gregory23b » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:04 am

I might do it for fun at some point, but making blocks is a time consuming process especially if the prints were not sellers.

I thought the tailor symbol was shears/scissors?


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Postby sally » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:38 am

gregory23b wrote:I might do it for fun at some point, but making blocks is a time consuming process especially if the prints were not sellers.

I thought the tailor symbol was shears/scissors?


I reckon this one would sell like hotcakes, I know I'd want at least three for various people



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Postby Sophia » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 pm

Jorge,

Shears are indeed one of the trade symbols for a tailor, but I would still want some woodcuts of fabric and clothes related stuff. Plus I would love to give my brother something like that.

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Postby Nigonwyrtas » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:09 pm

You can get kapok here (Under 'Natural Fillings'):

http://www.noblecraft.co.uk



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Postby Nigel » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:33 pm

gregory23b wrote:I
I thought the tailor symbol was shears/scissors?


They sure are hence Debs using them on her advertising


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