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Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby ladydetemps » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:44 am

I'm terrible when it comes to fabric choice. If I can find the wrong fabric for the wrong project it will happen. lol!
So I need your advice. I want to make a couple of items of underwear and a habit shirt. But I'm not sure which fabric would be correct. And I don't want to spend more than my usual maximum (£5.50 per metre) without knowing I'm buying the right thing.
Would this work?
http://www.croftmill.co.uk/products/cot ... oduct.html
Or this?
http://www.croftmill.co.uk/products/cot ... oduct.html
Or would a plain polycotton work?

As to what project are they for well I want to make a 'bra shirt' like this one
http://deventerburgerscap.blogspot.se/2 ... art-i.html

I also want to make a shift. And a habit shirt.



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Postby sally » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:19 am

Why not just buy linen?

The calico will be stiff and scratchy, the lawn very light and insubstantial. If you want the bodice to work instead of a bra, go for something with the structure to work.



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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby ladydetemps » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:29 am

sally wrote:Why not just buy linen?

The calico will be stiff and scratchy, the lawn very light and insubstantial. If you want the bodice to work instead of a bra, go for something with the structure to work.

Can you point me to where I can purchase it online? Or suggest what keywords I should put into my google search?
Last time I asked for linen in a shop I got given the white material in this image
http://flic.kr/p/drSq2T
Is that the right stuff? I don't understand fabrics and how they should be.



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Postby sally » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:31 am

assuming you arent coming to either market this weekend, where you'd be able to choose in person, this is cheap and cheerful and should do what you want http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/ ... cts_id/653



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Postby ladydetemps » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:33 am

sally wrote:assuming you arent coming to either market this weekend, where you'd be able to choose in person, this is cheap and cheerful and should do what you want http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/ ... cts_id/653

What markets?



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Postby sally » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:06 pm

um, its both TORM and the NLHF this weekend, both within 9 miles of each other so well worth visiting both. A very high percentage of UK reenactor traders will eb at one or the other :D



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Postby ladydetemps » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:13 pm

sally wrote:um, its both TORM and the NLHF this weekend, both within 9 miles of each other so well worth visiting both. A very high percentage of UK reenactor traders will eb at one or the other :D

Never heard of them before.
Aww, that's a shame. Not near enough I could pop there on the train in one afternoon. :(

Is there anything similar in Essex (I can wait till 2013 - no rush)? I'm sure I remeber mention of something?



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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby Shadow7cat » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:40 pm

The Essex event is in June. "Colchester Oyster Faire" (Fayre?) http://www.oysterfayre.flyer.co.uk/billoffayre.html

You could try E bay for white linen fabric. Do not buy linen look, or polycotton, or linen poly mix. Linen cotton mix would work. Always wash linen at a very high temperature to get all the shrinkage out of it.

I have bought from Croft Mill and all their fabrics have been O.K.

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Postby ladydetemps » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:12 pm

Shadow7cat wrote:The Essex event is in June. "Colchester Oyster Faire" (Fayre?) http://www.oysterfayre.flyer.co.uk/billoffayre.html

You could try E bay for white linen fabric. Do not buy linen look, or polycotton, or linen poly mix. Linen cotton mix would work. Always wash linen at a very high temperature to get all the shrinkage out of it.

I have bought from Croft Mill and all their fabrics have been O.K.

S


Looks interesting. If it doesn't clash with anything else I can take the train up.

Last time I tried ebay I ended up with a linen look fabric by accident. :o There is a ebay shop I've bought fabric from before that I've email to ask if they have any in stock.

Thanks for letting me know. :) I do wonder about using online retailers who don't have a physical shop to visit. Reassuring you have used them and not had problems.



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Postby John Waller » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:12 pm

You could always try IKEA down at Lakeside but it has shot up to £8 a metre (used to be around a fiver). http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/70029123/#


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Postby Andy92 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:55 pm

I've used these guys on ebay before: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/hussainfabrics. Their linen's about £7 a metre IIRC. Not bad but quite flimsy.

Or you could try herts fabrics. £6.95 but P&P is a killer.



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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby Pilsbury » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:07 am

Shame I have just seen this thread as we are leaving Essex in about an hour to go up to both markets and would of happily given you a lift.
Maybe next time.



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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:11 pm

You really do want to use linen: it hangs differently and works differently, so if you are creating period clothing out of interest and to see how it works, it will not make as much sense done in fabrics that were not used. Linen washes far better than cotton and improves rather than thins with repeated washing, wicks sweat away far more efficiently and dries quicker, or layering it is cooler than cotton and linen next to the skin
will ruin you for anything but the softest pima cotton jersey afterwards!

The Ikea Aina linen is to coarse for this - idea for table linens of common head wear or garment lining, though. It has also been very much reduced in range.

Linen used ot be about £5 a metre - re-enactors can get it for about £7 from our suppliers, it will be much more expensive in haberdashers adn don;t buy off ebay unless you want to buy in bulk adn really know what you are after. You can buy by post, contact Ali at Herts Specialist Fabrics. Linen page: http://www.classhistory.co.uk/Herts%20F ... ry&path=35 He supplies re-enactors with linens from finest to linen tent canvas so can advise.


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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby ladydetemps » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:17 pm

Alice the Huswyf wrote:You really do want to use linen: it hangs differently and works differently, so if you are creating period clothing out of interest and to see how it works, it will not make as much sense done in fabrics that were not used. Linen washes far better than cotton and improves rather than thins with repeated washing, wicks sweat away far more efficiently and dries quicker, or layering it is cooler than cotton and linen next to the skin
will ruin you for anything but the softest pima cotton jersey afterwards!

The only linen I've ever owned was a pair of 100% linen trousers....and ended up with blue fluff everywhere. lol! (Actually recently made them into a skirt)

I do keep reading how good it is when it comes to sweat etc. Which is one of the reasons I wanted to try using it.

Linen used ot be about £5 a metre - re-enactors can get it for about £7 from our suppliers, it will be much more expensive in haberdashers adn don;t buy off ebay unless you want to buy in bulk adn really know what you are after. You can buy by post, contact Ali at Herts Specialist Fabrics. Linen page: http://www.classhistory.co.uk/Herts%20F ... ry&path=35 He supplies re-enactors with linens from finest to linen tent canvas so can advise

:o The postage is a bit eye watering. Eep! Just stick it in a jiffy bag, 2nd class royal mail and I'd be happy. ;)
I only want about 4 metres to play about with.



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Postby lucy the tudor » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:07 pm

Weeell,
Jiffy bags cost money, and packaging small orders takes almost as long as packaging bigger ones. Ali appears to use Interparcel to save having to keep going to the post office. Which is why he can offer the overall price of £10 for all parcels up to 25 kg. 4 m of linen is not light, and at PO rates would probably cost £6 or more to post, plus the bag, plus the time to make a special trip for the smaller package. 10 kg of fabric transported for the same price is a steal.
I have been caught out by the increases in postal charges a few times recently, it seems to jump from 50p to £1 to £2.70 without rhyme or reason. I have often had to stand the extra cost as getting people to remember to check an email and add postage to the invoice you have included looks daft and is likely to fail, so I quote based on previous costs.
I am in no way saying that this means you have to pay it, or that it is unwise to question these things, and consider whether that makes it worthwhile to drive somewhere to buy your fabric, allowing for parking fees and petrol...
Sometimes for smaller amounts it is worth ebaying, as people who sell less are pricing every parcel individually and can be more flexible then.


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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby ladydetemps » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:31 pm

lucy the tudor wrote:Weeell,
Jiffy bags cost money, and packaging small orders takes almost as long as packaging bigger ones. Ali appears to use Interparcel to save having to keep going to the post office. Which is why he can offer the overall price of £10 for all parcels up to 25 kg. 4 m of linen is not light, and at PO rates would probably cost £6 or more to post, plus the bag, plus the time to make a special trip for the smaller package. 10 kg of fabric transported for the same price is a steal.
I have been caught out by the increases in postal charges a few times recently, it seems to jump from 50p to £1 to £2.70 without rhyme or reason. I have often had to stand the extra cost as getting people to remember to check an email and add postage to the invoice you have included looks daft and is likely to fail, so I quote based on previous costs.
I am in no way saying that this means you have to pay it, or that it is unwise to question these things, and consider whether that makes it worthwhile to drive somewhere to buy your fabric, allowing for parking fees and petrol...
Sometimes for smaller amounts it is worth ebaying, as people who sell less are pricing every parcel individually and can be more flexible then.

Ah...interparcel. :( I try to avoid anything delivered by couriers. They never seem to deliver when you are in. Then charge you a fortune to redeliver. I prefer royal mail as the depot is only round the corner and I can walk there.



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Postby lucy the tudor » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:47 pm

We love Interparcel, last time I booked in it only took two hours for them to come and collect the parcel.
The Post office took three days once, to decide that the amount calculated by their office to take a parcel to Ireland, was so wrong that they not only wouldn't deliver it at first class, as it was charged for, but that they would send it back home because they didn't understand the difference in the words "To " and "Sender". So they wanted to charge me more again for bringing it home. The customer, meanwhile, had needed it quickly for a film set, which was why I has spent so much in the first place. PO refunds do not help my customer .


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Re: Fabric Choice - Help!

Postby ladydetemps » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:03 pm

lucy the tudor wrote:We love Interparcel, last time I booked in it only took two hours for them to come and collect the parcel.
The Post office took three days once, to decide that the amount calculated by their office to take a parcel to Ireland, was so wrong that they not only wouldn't deliver it at first class, as it was charged for, but that they would send it back home because they didn't understand the difference in the words "To " and "Sender". So they wanted to charge me more again for bringing it home. The customer, meanwhile, had needed it quickly for a film set, which was why I has spent so much in the first place. PO refunds do not help my customer .

Postage to ireland is always a bit of a minefield. I've only experienced interparcel as a 'receiver' rather than a 'sender'. ;)
Sometimes I think it's easier to go collect in person.

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Postby lucy the tudor » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:19 pm

Oh yes please, teleport to events would be sooooo nice, would never have to eat service station food again. 8-)


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