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Books on History of Tablet Weaving

Postby sally » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:36 pm

I'm in the market for a bookshelf expansion on Tablet Weaving, I'm going to interlibraryloan the Peter Collingwood book, but apart from that, what would people recommend as being good to develop techniques (I'm great at ultra basic, want to progress to more complex and more importantly, historically based designs) and with good historical/archaeological info.
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Postby gaukler » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:45 pm

There is this: http://takvbowes.et-tu.com/ , found on the Soper Lane site. Their pamphlets are pretty good, too: http://www.et-tu.com/soper/cgi-bin/inde ... e=sale.htm . Soper Lane also has a forum for questions.
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Postby sally » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:06 pm

gaukler wrote:There is this: http://takvbowes.et-tu.com/ , found on the Soper Lane site. Their pamphlets are pretty good, too: http://www.et-tu.com/soper/cgi-bin/inde ... e=sale.htm . Soper Lane also has a forum for questions.
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Isnt TakVbowes a fingerloop braiding book though? Does it also have tablet weaving in it? Its on my to buy list, but I mentally had it down as just fingerloop.



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Postby gaukler » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:15 pm

I'm not sure- ask the authors:)
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Postby lucy the tudor » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:57 pm

Yep. tak 5 bows departed, or whatever, is finger loop, and team finger loop at that in places. Great little book, i think, not having had the oomph to get going at it properly .


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Postby Sophia » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:37 pm

Lucy is correct - this being said the lovely Gina Barrett or any of the other Soper Lane members can probably point you in the direction of interesting stuff on silk tablet weaving. :D


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Postby savage beasty » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:44 am

There's a book been on my wish list for a while by Otfried Staudigel. It's called the magic of tablet weaving, but it focusses more on eastern/oriental bands. You can see his site here
http://www.brettchenweben.de/buch1inh.html

It is in english too. The book is bilingual, having german and english side by side. (that for me is a big plus, being a german teacher and textile fanatic :D )

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Postby GinaB » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:00 am

Yes, Tak V Bowes is fingerloop braiding!

We (Soper Lane) have done a few booklets on medieval tablet weaving - currently out of print of a few of the titles (should have more in stock around July). Email me if you need to Sally.

There's not a great deal which really goes into detail about historic tablet weaving, though most books do touch one or two historic things, if that makes sense. The best list can be found here - http://www.weavershand.com/#B The most comprehensive book on brocaded tablet weaves is Nancy Spies' Ecclesiastical Pomp & Aristocratic Circumstance: A Thousand Years of Brocaded Tabletwoven Bands http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio1.html with Anna Neuper's Modelbuch (Early Sixteenth-Century Patterns for Weaving Brocaded bands) by the same author http://www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudioaneuper.html a great companion piece. (You really need the first, or need to understand brocades, before you get the second)

To get the best info about historic tablet weaves, you're really best to look at history books which have recovered textiles, that's where you find out most about what was actually done, this is especially the case for Anglo-Saxon items, though using the list on the weavershand website, you'll get quite a few links to articles.

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Postby sally » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:13 am

Thanks! Clearly there is a need for someone (hint hint!) to write a nice shiny new book all about how to move on from basic threaded in designs with lots of reference to what is known about tablet weaving in different historical eras :D

Will explore that list whislt you write it though... :wink:




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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:56 pm

Collingwood covered all that in a way that was so exhaustive I doubt anyone else will ever supercede.

Be wary which edition you have. The book was reprinted by a US publisher (Interweave I think?) who filled it with errata. Mr Collingwood sold this edition direct - I was lucky enough to get one - filled with his handwritten errata! But it might be best if you don't have one of these direct from Mr Collingwood to go for the original British version as that was comparatively error free. I treasure mine and the handwritten note he sent with it!

He gives you the history and also goes beyond threaded in patterns, and gets so sophisticated with it I can't imagine anyone else could ever go further.

Candace Crockett's book, Card Weaving,http://www.amazon.com/Card-Weaving-Candace-Crockett/dp/0934026610 is also a standard reference and extremely good to get you going - she gets quite advanced too. No good on history. You can find odd references in archaeology books, eg the works of Penelope Walton Rogers.

Rachel Brown's Spinning, Weaving and Dyeing Book is also a good introduction.



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Postby GinaB » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:39 pm

Totally agree - Collingwood is the Bible of TW and if you never have another book you'll still manage just fine! A huge range of techniques are shown - so, when new bands come to light you can use his work as a reference to the method used for weaving. Although if you do want to carry on with brocades, Spies' is the 2nd must have book - it expands much further and includes a full list of all known brocaded historic bands. It took her years to compile that info.

Unfortunately, you won't get one direct from Collingwood now, as he's passed away. (I have his hand-written/revised book on Sprang - I know how much you treasure yours!)

Also, yes, Crockett is a good starter book for the technique itself.



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Re: Books on History of Tablet Weaving

Postby fishwife » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:13 pm

Collingwood is probably the best on the history of tablet weaving - but if you're looking for help on "how to" the book I found most helpful was Tablet Weaving by Eileen Bird. I have struggled and struggled to get my head round what is going on - read Collingwood, Thorskegga Thorn, Ann Sutton allsorts. The lightbulb moment came with Eileeen Bird so I can't praise her book enough!!!

There's some history in there but maybe not enough.......

And yes weaving is really beyond my comprehension!


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Re: Books on History of Tablet Weaving

Postby kitty » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:28 pm

I used Candace Crocketts book for a long time before a lot of my weaving and that book went missing one year at a festival we used to do in Danson Park in London.

I've yet to find another copy that isn't horrendously expensive.

I now design my own weaving patterns and writing patterns. I'd love to ask, where do you get your cards from? I'm seriously considering some bone cards at some point, just to deter the wool from fraying.

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Postby Sassyfrass » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:50 pm

For anyone who understands Swedish I can thoroughly recommend a book by Louse Strom which can be found at http://www.spangmurs.seIt really helped me understand how to use and create complex patterns.

As for tablets, I really like the thin wooden ones from http://www.candlemaker.org.uk/textiles.htm. I've had very little fraying and a bit of extra sandpapering one or two cases solved that nicely.



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Re: Books on History of Tablet Weaving

Postby tanyabentham » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:28 pm

there was a message on one of the textile boards saying that Nancy spies, author of ecclesiastical pomp and the anna neuper tw book, both of which are excellent, is liquidating her stock of her own book because she's retiring. I think you have to go to her website, but I heard the prices were much reduced (I never checked it myself cos I've already got both)




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