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womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby robin wood » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:04 pm

Our family was discussing this the other day and daughter had a go at googling which seemed inconclusive. Best story was women had someone to dress them. Any one know?
And when did it start ?



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby chrisanson » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:01 pm

women have upside down heads



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Postby Hinny Annie » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:22 am

chrisanson wrote:women have upside down heads


you will be in so much trouble if Barb sees this :lol:


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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:04 pm

So blind gropers can tell the difference between men and flat chested ladies.


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Postby Sir Edmund Mortimer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:33 pm

Marcus Woodhouse wrote:So blind gropers can tell the difference between men and flat chested ladies.



thats what perfume and glassses are for, perfume scent as opposed to aftershave so you know its female and the female wearing glasses so you know which way round they are ..... well thats what i tell the wife :devil:



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Sir Edmund Mortimer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:34 pm

Apparently and I quote from a Yahoo search source;

" The first button jackets for men were modeled after the latching designs of armour, which were designed to stop a right-handed opponent from jamming a pike through the seam. The left-side buttons on women's clothes may have been intended to facilitate nursing an infant on the side closest to the woman's heart.

It is suggested that men's coats were designed to make it easier for them to unbutton their coats with their left hand while drawing their swords with their right.

In general, we gleaned that European men tended to take their plumage cues from the military, while women's clothing arose out of domestic concerns".



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Merlon. » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:49 pm

The (very) few articles of female clothing with buttons pre nineteenth century have buttons on the left or right roughly 50% of the time. Its not a cast iron fact that all male garments button on the right some early doublets button on the left.
By the mid to late nineteenth century female buttons had completely migrated to the left side. Possibly because of maids etc. Nobody really knows why.



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Sir Edmund Mortimer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:55 pm

Merlon. wrote:The (very) few articles of female clothing with buttons pre nineteenth century have buttons on the left or right roughly 50% of the time. Its not a cast iron fact that all male garments button on the right some early doublets button on the left.
By the mid to late nineteenth century female buttons had completely migrated to the left side. Possibly because of maids etc. Nobody really knows why.



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Shadowcat » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:23 am

I've always thought it was to do with the introduction of industry to tailoring. It became normal for jackets to be cut through many layers of cloth with a band saw. Therefore putting men's and women's fastenings on different sides allows for differentiation when doling out jackets/coats/bodices for making up.

Also, some women's clothes, particularly skirts, close at the side, and a right over left fastening is much neater.

And finally, it is easier for the maid to do right over left fastenings - years of theatre taught me that.

These opinions are entirely my own and backed up by no hard research whatsoever.

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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Sir Edmund Mortimer » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:35 am

if you google about button history the servant (maid) theory seems to come up every time...



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Merlon. » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:21 am

One thing to bear in mind about the Internet, a lot of the generic answer sites like Yahoo Ask Jeeves and even to a degree Wikipedia repeat generalised rumour and verification by their own peers. So they become self furfilling prophesises.

In short as Shadowcats states there is educated guesswork, lots of stated wrong answers and probably no real right answer.



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Re: womens and mens buttons oposite why?

Postby Sir Edmund Mortimer » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:33 pm

Merlon. wrote:One thing to bear in mind about the Internet, a lot of the generic answer sites like Yahoo Ask Jeeves and even to a degree Wikipedia repeat generalised rumour and verification by their own peers. So they become self furfilling prophesises.

In short as Shadowcats states there is educated guesswork, lots of stated wrong answers and probably no real right answer.


quite agree...





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