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Postby Tuppence » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:39 am

I thought I was being quite restrained in not going, despite being on several mailing lists that mentioned it - wedding dress fabric to buy and all that.


On the crinolines, it was the details that I menat - the flowers being way too bad and stuff like that, not so much the fabrics.

The real problem with the peach one is that it's a shot fabric, of course, which can often look hideous under flash, even when it's not in two shades that appear to clash like billyo!


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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:04 pm

It is quite interesting - I don't know about fashion lag (although I think I have to agree with you) but they did seem to have much more modest / prudish tastes across the board: the plot of Dame aux Camellias had to be drastically altered into a moral tale on the fall of a flirt rather than the tragic tale of a wordly courtesan corrupted by true love before it could even be performed in the states, and by then the original it was already old hat in Paris and Europe as a piece of theatre.

Because we share a language (sort of) and a modern familiarity by virtue of the media (but my, how misleading is that when you actually experience the country itself) we assume this passed back. I am fascinated with the differences and influences I have been seeing when I have been looking at clothing in this period for the middle classes here , the chattering classes of Paris and the vast yet apparently microcosmic America of the time.

I disagree about that shade of peach. I wear it all the time and look drop-dead in it. We love it so much that we are all going to wear it in November, shot with differeing shades. The Husbynde is having a second fitting of his morning suit as we speak. We thought of lime shot with lilac for the waistcoat?



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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:15 pm

Yep the trimmings look like she's a prize cow at the village fete who rampaged through the flower arranging tent and came out festooned with random flowers... :lol:

The US/Europe fashion gap interests me too - if it was so noticeable as late as the mid 1990s, what must it have been like in the 1840s? The latest 'Piecework' - US mag - has an article about a beautiful linsey woolsey dress that at a glance would be Regency - 1820 at the latest, I'd'a thought, in England. But the museum that owns it has it dated from around 1820-30 or even a touch later. That said, it is thought to have been made for a slave (they aren;t sure) - and you wouldn't have them in high fashion, on the whole - on the other hand, is it a more modern equivalent of, say the 1640's folk with the servant whose clothing looks late Tudor? Interesting.

For more wang, have a go at YouTube - type in RenFayre and feast on the mob caps and Scarlett O'Hara crinolines - wang ahoy!

P.S: Alice lime green AND peach would be a lovely combination... although if you can work some orange in there, even better.... :wink:



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Postby Kate Tiler » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:38 am

I think that glow in the dark turquoise would be a better match...


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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:22 pm

He wants strong magenta with it now, the old conservative.....



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Postby JC Milwr » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:13 am

I have to add this to the collection of finery:

ebay number 350049320950


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Postby Tuppence » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:09 am

oh my good god - I think we may have a winner


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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:13 am

You mean this?

http://tinyurl.com/3zjlap

Classy :lol: I think I've seen summat like that in Ann Summers' window....

If you scroll down to Description, you'll see he says it's for 'Suitable for: Men'... Blimey. There's some interesting men wandering round Kidderminster then.... :wink:



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Postby JC Milwr » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:07 pm

although this, from the same seller is close...

http://tinyurl.com/4zbx8n


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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:40 pm

I so nearly entered that bo-peep confection on Friday, but felt that it was so off the beam that it would be cheating........

This one has me confused , though - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fancy-Dress-Victo ... dZViewItem



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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:10 pm

It would be an interesting competition to have some of these and guess the era... cos I can't tell half the time even to within 200 years when they're meant to be.... :lol:



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Postby Mr Dreadful » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:34 pm

Crikey, there's some pretty special stuff around... and the gents stuff Debs posted! My god.

Is it wrong that I'm a LRPer but have better and more accurate kit than many supposed re-enactors?

And just to actually contribute to the thread:
Anglo-Saxon costume with invisible cloak
Draughty pirate shirt


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Wait a minute, is there such a thing as 'too much' costume?

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Postby Mad Mab » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:59 pm

Mr Dreadful wrote:Crikey, there's some pretty special stuff around... and the gents stuff Debs posted! My god.

Is it wrong that I'm a LRPer but have better and more accurate kit than many supposed re-enactors?

And just to actually contribute to the thread:
Anglo-Saxon costume with invisible cloak
Draughty pirate shirt


What is the pirate holding? :shock:
I do like the way it's described as being made of high quality fabric but never clarifies what type of fabric.....


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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:17 am

Medieval pirate
too, apparently. :lol: Is that real hair or bad wig?



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Postby Mr Dreadful » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:04 am

Mad Mab wrote:
Mr Dreadful wrote:Crikey, there's some pretty special stuff around... and the gents stuff Debs posted! My god.

Is it wrong that I'm a LRPer but have better and more accurate kit than many supposed re-enactors?

And just to actually contribute to the thread:
Anglo-Saxon costume with invisible cloak
Draughty pirate shirt


What is the pirate holding? :shock:
I do like the way it's described as being made of high quality fabric but never clarifies what type of fabric.....


I have sent an e-mail to the seller because I really want to know now.


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Wait a minute, is there such a thing as 'too much' costume?

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Postby Mad Mab » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:55 pm

Mr Dreadful wrote:
Mad Mab wrote:
Mr Dreadful wrote:Crikey, there's some pretty special stuff around... and the gents stuff Debs posted! My god.

Is it wrong that I'm a LRPer but have better and more accurate kit than many supposed re-enactors?

And just to actually contribute to the thread:
Anglo-Saxon costume with invisible cloak
Draughty pirate shirt


What is the pirate holding? :shock:
I do like the way it's described as being made of high quality fabric but never clarifies what type of fabric.....


I have sent an e-mail to the seller because I really want to know now.

:lol:


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Postby frances » Tue May 06, 2008 10:57 pm

How about this site:

http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/yourgarb/showcase.htm

I found rather a snazzy one with orange nylon floaty lower sleeves in the 2007 crop. I did not have the heart to go through all the frocks, but did find some of the body shapes a tad interesting.



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Postby Fox » Fri May 09, 2008 5:12 pm

I'd not seen this thread until today.

I started off by laughing, lots and out loud, so that everyone in the office stared.

Now I just feel violated. And not in a good way.



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Postby Nigel » Fri May 09, 2008 8:17 pm

Fox wrote:I'd not seen this thread until today.

I started off by laughing, lots and out loud, so that everyone in the office stared.

Now I just feel violated. And not in a good way.


thats bad


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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Sat May 10, 2008 12:39 am

Why violated? You're not one of the ebay sellers are you? :lol:



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Postby Fox » Sat May 10, 2008 5:55 am

ViscontesseD'Asbeau wrote:Why violated? You're not one of the ebay sellers are you? :lol:


I am not. :x

There are just some things people shouldn't have to see; like episodes of wife swap.



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Postby Nigel » Sat May 10, 2008 6:05 am

there are many things I would accuse fox of but being responsible for any of the items lsited is not one of them


There’s a country in Europe where they treat their ex soldiers with pride no waits for medical treatment after injuries received during service, no amensia from the government. Cant for the life of me recall where it is but I know exactly where it is not.

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Postby squamatus » Sat May 10, 2008 10:25 am

I just came across this accessory on eBay - suitable for all periods, judging from the title, including Klingons!

ANTIQUE BONE HANDLED ROMAN UTILITY KNIFE 1000-4000 AD

Isn't it amazing how many of these genuine items make it to the USA before becoming available to the discerning public?


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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Sun May 11, 2008 5:17 pm

"GEORGIAN- ELIZABETHAN -ANTOINETTE-MEDIEVAL"

So that is 1066 to early 1830's - unless we stretch it to George 6th which makes it early 1950's.

Useful dress, then.



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Postby Shadowcat » Sun May 11, 2008 5:29 pm

Coo, my Gran had some chairs and a sofa made of that, I swear!



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Postby Nigel » Sun May 11, 2008 6:41 pm

Alice the Huswyf wrote:"GEORGIAN- ELIZABETHAN -ANTOINETTE-MEDIEVAL"

So that is 1066 to early 1830's - unless we stretch it to George 6th which makes it early 1950's.

Useful dress, then.


Its my olf shower curtain


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Postby Tuppence » Mon May 12, 2008 1:28 am

Shadowcat wrote:Coo, my Gran had some chairs and a sofa made of that, I swear!


I think my Nana had curtains...


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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Mon May 12, 2008 10:11 pm

Yeerss - of course there was a brief period when a vgnl speculum was posted on ebay as a re-enactment item .

- No really.

Luckily a lot of the S&M accessories that were posted en masse seemed not to attract the commercial attention desired under a reenactment (not re-enactment) listing. I consider myself (considerably) broadminded, but I actually complained to ebay. Mainly becuase there are no primary sources for straddle bars worn with the shoes depicted......



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Postby ViscontesseD'Asbeau » Mon May 12, 2008 11:34 pm

Is the Tudor-Georgian curtain dress lady standing like a zombie or is it my imagination? Talk about frocky horror...

And to be fair, I imagine a speculum could be re-enactment equipment if you were playing a 1970s ob/gyn doctor, or something?




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