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Silk Regency Reticule

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:38 pm
by sally
Being me, I've started work on my Regency outfit by experimenting with the knitted elements. I want to do a knitted reticule, and am hoping to have time (ha ha ha ha ha) to do a pineapple one, but in the meantime I rustled up this very simple plain pure silk one in a rather yummy silver grey.
Its not directly based on any extant example, I was more working with the overall idea of Regency reticules, but I'm pleased with how its turned out and I'd welcome constructive criticism on how to modify this basic idea to achieve a greater appearance of accuracy when I do my next one :) I was wondering about beads coming into the equation somewhere...

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:46 pm
by Shadowcat
Definitely beads, seeds (one in America I've seen with pumkin seeds), wavy lines in mixed colours, (this is popular in shawls as well) and of course there is always the pineapple, as you say!!

S.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:00 am
by Tuppence
Absolutely on the beads - there's also the variation that's double ended that I can't remember the name of (helpfully - sorry).

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:07 am
by Shadowcat
Tuppence wrote:Absolutely on the beads - there's also the variation that's double ended that I can't remember the name of (helpfully - sorry).
Would that be a "miser's purse"? or guinea purse? Sally, I have one of those, but I don't think it's knitted -you may see it differently.

S.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:54 am
by sally
Shadowcat wrote:
Tuppence wrote:Absolutely on the beads - there's also the variation that's double ended that I can't remember the name of (helpfully - sorry).
Would that be a "miser's purse"? or guinea purse? Sally, I have one of those, but I don't think it's knitted -you may see it differently.

S.
I've definately seen knitted ones, the ones with one or two sliding rings in the middle to get at the opening right? Got plans for doing those too! They are gentleman's accessories arent they, I didnt think they were something women carried from what I've read.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:40 am
by Shadowcat
[quote="sally"}
I've definately seen knitted ones, the ones with one or two sliding rings in the middle to get at the opening right? Got plans for doing those too! They are gentleman's accessories arent they, I didnt think they were something women carried from what I've read.[/quote]

I was always under the impression that these were used by women. At the talk at the Museum of London the other week one was shown and talked about, and no mention of it being solely a masculine purse was made. I have a poster on the wall of a young Victorian lady with one in her hand, at a bazaar, although that only proves she was looking at it. I'll look in my "Accessories" books later.

s.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:03 am
by sally
fair enough, maybe what I was thinking of is that I've seen references to women knitting them as suitable gifts for gentlemen, thats probably where I got the idea that they mere more manly. Now I ponder more, I'm sure I have seen illustrations of women holding them, which is good, cos I fancy making some of those too :)

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:17 pm
by Tuppence
Yes - those were the ones - thanks.

As far as I'm aware they were for women, and they were made in several ways - including cut from fabric, crocheted, and knitted.

Have seen all three versions (either in real life or as pictures in books).

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:25 pm
by Neibelungen
There are examples of guinea purses used by men.

The most notable example is Nelson's one which came up for aution the other year. The Davison collection sale.

The NMM also has another one belonging to him

They aren't always knitted, but are often netted, which was a favorite pastime of ladies..

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:10 pm
by sally
Found some gorgeous reticules and miser's purses on the website of the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston (www. mfa.org search on knitting or purses and wade through til you find them), definately giving me ideas :D

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:19 pm
by Tuppence
there are some nice knotted ones too (as distinct, but related, to netting).

and they were used by men (checked) - according to peeps at the v&a mainly as gamaing purses and tobacco pouches.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:53 pm
by ViscontesseD'Asbeau
That looks lovely - well done, you! I'm busy with my second pair of gunnister stockings and also doing a gutter girl gansey.

This isn't knitted, but one of my favourite reticules:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/con ... ry.shtml?3

Handbag with a moral message! :lol:

Think I have seen some 18thC anti slavery silk knitting which may or may not have included a reticule but can't for the life of me find it, now...

I have a brilliant book of knitting 'receipts' from 1903 (third edition of the Paton's book which evolved into 'Woolcraft') and as most of it's clearly still 19thC stuff, had a quick look for any reticules for you, but no joy. I do however have patterns for Sailor Boy's Drawers (sexy) a chest protector (what?) and even a 'nightingale'... (bed jacket) if anyone ever wants a scan just give us a shout.

:lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:07 am
by Tuppence
oh, that is nice, vd'a.

have to say, I have utmost respect for the people who can do the knitting thing, cos I can't. I've tried and I just can't. I've been taught and I still can't :roll: