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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:05 pm
by Shadowcat
I'd still like to know what the original "of the shelf" pattern was, so that we can perhaps discover the source of the suggestion to pad the tabs. Someone may have research to prove it, in which case we could all be in for a surprise.

S.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:02 pm
by kate/bob
the stays and pattern have arrived. The pattern is the mantua-maker, 1720 - 1790 stays.

The bit about the padding says "stuff the tabls with a bit of cotton wool. This acts as a bit more padding for your comfort. Do not fill the tabs to bulging - add just enough to give them a hint of roundness."

Any thoughts?!

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:37 pm
by Shadowcat
I don't know that pattern, but I wouldn't use one pattern to fit that range of dates. I'd still love to know her source for the information - never come across it elsewhere.

S.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:43 pm
by kate/bob
the stays are finished and I was squeezed into them yesterday. The boning doesn't poke into me at the bottom so thank you all for your advice. If we'd put some padding in the bottom wouldn't have sat right at all.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:48 pm
by frances
Hi to everyone who makes corsets. Have a look at this pic:

http://www.mantua-maker.com/sitebuilder ... -photo.jpg

I'm not saying a word.

The blurb says that she copies extant garments and simplyfies them unless it affects the overall shape.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:07 am
by Mad Mab
frances wrote:Hi to everyone who makes corsets. Have a look at this pic:

http://www.mantua-maker.com/sitebuilder ... -photo.jpg

I'm not saying a word.

The blurb says that she copies extant garments and simplyfies them unless it affects the overall shape.
What did they copy? That's an odd little point by the front bottom edge.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:30 am
by Shadowcat
frances wrote:Hi to everyone who makes corsets. Have a look at this pic:

http://www.mantua-maker.com/sitebuilder ... -photo.jpg

I'm not saying a word.

The blurb says that she copies extant garments and simplyfies them unless it affects the overall shape.
Let's put it like this:- I've never seen any corset that was built quite like that, and I've seen a fair few, both in my hand for study, and in museums all over the place, including the U.S. Also of course, in books and articles. Anyone else ever seen anything like it?

S.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:54 am
by ViscontesseD'Asbeau
Jaysus.... what's with the 'tabs'? Looks like a rottweiler's mauled it. And pn the homepage she says:
No bizarre concoctions
Not doing what it says on the tin, is it? :D

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:45 am
by Hraefn
Bum/hip roll(3 padded nana shapes linked together) under tabs pads it and gives you that 'avast behind' look.
Seconded mit the tab thing.......eh?!

http://www.antiquecorsetgallery.com/art ... article=30
http://www.chs.org/textiles/found_acc.htm
http://members.localnet.com/~barnwood/stayspics.htm

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:54 am
by Shadowcat
Hraefn wrote:Bum/hip roll(3 padded nana shapes linked together) under tabs pads it and gives you that 'avast behind' look.
Seconded mit the tab thing.......eh?!

http://www.antiquecorsetgallery.com/art ... article=30
http://www.chs.org/textiles/found_acc.htm
http://members.localnet.com/~barnwood/stayspics.htm
Pads go over tabs, not under, according to Rowlandson's cartoon "The Bum Shop"., and other drawings. I've always put pads over, not under.

Nice pix. See also "Corsets and Crinolines" for patterns and drawings, and cartoons of corsets. (And various American publications with patterns of extant corsets.)

S

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:16 pm
by kate/bob
just as well I'm going to "beer tent authenticity" really!

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:16 pm
by frances
Whilst we are on corsets - do you have any advice on how to stop wood 'bones' from poking through the fabric.

I am renovating an ex-theatrical corset. Yes, I know it would be better to start at the beginning, but I get a kick out of taking something that is not useful, and converting it.

Anyway this is for 1790's. The shape is good, it fits me, but it needs a lot of work. The maker used coarse fabric and very narrow channels filled with round fluted wood skewers, if that makes sense. They are a few mm in diameter. But in wear the ends have poked through the fabric.

I am going to make them shorter in lenegth, and remove them from the side tassets altogether, as I do not need them there. But some of them have gone a bit splintery at the ends around the tops and the body of the corset itself. Is there any way of preventing this happening again. I will probably sandpaper them - but then if I ever want to get the garment finished in order to wear it some time this year, there must be another way of protecting the ends.

Any ideas?