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I've just bought a very nice second hand set of middle-class ladies' clothes -skirts, waistcote, primitive stomacher type thing, doublet.(Excuse terms used as I'm a muddy evil type normally.) I have dated them to about 1670 via contemporary pictures.

I want to adapt them for a very early pirate-y or land based female smuggler character- vaguely respectable, but a little rough around the edges.I know that chronologically speaking I am 10 years early for Golden Age of Piracy, but I'll argue my corner on that if it comes to it!

On to the question, then. Would the headgear be 'hair tied in a scarf'-one is, after all a 39 year old 'married' woman-, or have I got license to hat? And what sort of hat? When do tricorns come in? I've found an earliest date of 1750 so far. And do I have to have a special type of shirt, or lace me doublet in a particular way?

Any responses gratefully received.
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Tudor - 1670? :o :D
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Title duly changed. Kids... :roll: :lol:
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Cat dressed as a girl? how wierd.

Anyway, I thought it was the case until relatively recent times that whilst the upper classes might have followed fashion the lower and middle orders tended to stick to the styles of thier early adulthood. In which case wearing the stlyes of 1670 in 1690 would be reasonable for a lady such as yourself (putting it as delicately as I can)
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Contemporary (ish) drawings of both female and male pirates show fairly fashionable clothing. (Especially a certain French pirate whose name escapes me for the time being.) But the style of hat would be loosely cavalier in style, biggish brim, feathers, flat crown, lace etc.

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The Fox has done some specific research on the development of the tricorn, and has been cutting and folding flat brimmed felt hats to make the early (1690?) style of proto-trycorn he has identified from illustrations. See his thread in the 1603-1715 section about 1690's marines.

Might be worth having a chat with him

Ah-ha, here it is: http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12460
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True - people have always worn the fashions that were prevalent when they were young - changing slightly in recent years, but up till then...

Hats wise for 1670 (ish) as SC says - cavalierish, feathers, but worn over a linen coif (for vague respectability).
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Excellent! Cheers all. off to play with a hat now.
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Post a picture of your new outfit soon!
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I would, but I don't have the Knowledge. Suffice to say I look somewhat more subdued than I'd like to. Downright respectabule, in fact. Must work on this, it makes a change from all the 'why are you dressed as a man' comments.
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Nope,

It's meant to be another 5 weeks, but the consultant says big baby/small wife/don't make too many plans
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First off, having 'jacked my own thread CONGRATS again to all of the Banks clan. Now you are four, and most of them are female. :D

Second off, to get back on topic, I saw a fabulous 'rustick' picture in the V and A on Weds, and it looks as though a flat-crowned straw hat will suffice. With ribbons. Lots of ribbons...
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