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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:26 pm
by Helzbelz
What does it mean if your mystery sock isn't black, but the dreaded WHITE?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:31 pm
by Dickie
I have just discovered I am wearing odd socks. Now I'm sure there were the same when I put them on earlier... :oops:

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:47 pm
by mally ley
Noel wrote:You have to ask whether Theoretical Sock Science accurately models RealLife Sock Science.


Noel - you appear to have missed the point of tax-funded Theoretical research.
It quite deliberately can not accurately model RealLife because then the tax-paying MoPs would realize what they were paying for was boswolox.
Unless, of course, you are researching the "biscuit dunking in hot beverage" question which has far greater economic implications than odd socks - you can still wear odd socks, but once the biscuit has fallen into the tea both are ruined.

Loss of Sock

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:28 pm
by Maenoferren
:roll:
I am glad people are realising the shocking truth.
I feel it is a ploy by Tesco's to dominate the sock market. They have somehow woven destructo thread into the socks. And at a pre determined time they will self destruct, with sympathetic destruction of all nearby socks. others are woven with dyeit thread which causes a random colour to be initiatated!



3 months ago I bought 14 pairs of identical black socks and threw away all old socks -I now have 3 individual socks one of which is purple, and the other 2 dont match! :(

I have been warned about speaking out about this and even as I type I can see a dark car parked opposite with 2 indistinct figures watching from the front seats.

You have been warned

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:17 pm
by Miel
Two socks walking down the road.

One says to the other "ere you ave an ole in your toe"

The other said

"Darn it".

Ha.


If you have six white and six black socks in a bag.

..............And it's dark so you can't see.

How many socks will you have to take out to make sure you have a pair ?

Ho Ho.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:22 pm
by Miel
Malley - I disagree entirely.

When I was a boy, we used to let the end fall off our biscuit into our tea deliberately.

Then we would see who could drink their tea without disturbing the settlement.

If done successfully, the soggy remains could be removed with a spoon and sucked off the end with a delightful noise.

Just another way to add interest to the mundane tasks of a young boy in the post war 1950's.

I still do it today although not so deliberately.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:40 pm
by Jenn R
Miel - three socks need to be taken out!! At least two will be the same!

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:42 am
by Noel
If you take two socks out, you'll have a pair. They may not be the same colour, but it'll be a pair of socks ;D

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:48 am
by Miel
I think you both might be right....darn it, got socked in the kisser.

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:52 am
by Jenn R
YEY!! I got it right!!!

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:40 pm
by Mad Monk of Mitcham
Back on the sock issue - you cannot have mobeius socks, sorry G23b, however I recomend "Klein bottle" socks - they only have one surface, which is both inside and out!

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:46 pm
by Dougie
That has two surfaces an inner and an outer, i there for claim your sockisim false !!! HERETIC !!!!! BURN HIM !!!!!! :evil:

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:53 pm
by Braidwoman
Isn't that one of those plastic pan-scrubs?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:38 pm
by Mad Monk of Mitcham
Hi Dougie,

I regret that your perception is mis-aligned. Yes, it has an inner and outer surface, but both surfaces are the same! Just as a mobeius strip only has one side (and one edge if you want to be pedantic)

Other pictures of klein bottles here:
http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/zoo/toptype/kl ... tills.html

Video of klein bottles here:
http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/zoo/toptype/kl ... ovies.html

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:35 am
by Noel
I (for it was I who mentioned moebius) stand corrected.

Of course a one-sided 3D object is a Klein bottle (or a couple of others, iirc - does it not depend on the number of puntures, or something?)

Thank you for the correction, your monkfulness.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:23 am
by Jackie Phillips
Miel wrote:If you have six white and six black socks in a bag.

..............And it's dark so you can't see.

How many socks will you have to take out to make sure you have a pair ?


Ok, assuming that there are no other ways of telling the socks apart in the dark (size, shape, texture, smell?) and you are looking to match an identical pair, then you will have to remove seven socks from the bag in order to guarantee that you will have two identical socks, due to the small possibility that the first six you remove will be all the same colour.

The probability is low, but it is still there.

Pedant mode off.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:11 pm
by david smith
Sorry Jackie,

If you remove six and they are all the same colour then you already have 3 identical pairs, and only a spider would need more than that at any one time (or millipedes, centipedes etc, but I've neve seen any of them wearing socks, whereas some of the spiders I've seen have definitely had socks!)

This of course assumes that all of these socks in the bag are from perfectly matched pairings and only the colours are different.

Best wishes
David

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:43 pm
by caroline

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:44 pm
by gregory23b
three socks:

all the same of white

or

all the same of black

or

1 black two white

1 white two black

doesn't matter if there are 200 of each or 2000 of each you will still only need to pull out three socks to get a pair.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:25 pm
by His Grace, Duke Henry
gregory23b wrote:doesn't matter if there are 200 of each or 2000 of each you will still only need to pull out three socks to get a pair.
Wrong twice on the same count.

If the socks are to be of a matching colour, to be absolutely sure that at least two socks of your 200 pairs are the same colour, you will have to remove 101 socks, as there is still a 9.332621544394415268169923885627e+157 to 1 chance that the first 100 socks you remove will be the same colour. Which according to sod's law will happen 9 times out of 10.

If the colour of the socks is irrelevant, then you only need to pull out two socks to get a pair... :D

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:54 pm
by gregory23b
So I don't get a pair of socks the same colour from a bag full of socks of two colours of equal proportion, by pulling out three socks? And what do you mean by absolutely? Surely as soon as you have three socks you will get a pair of one of the two colours, the other is a discard, unless we are talking red hot chilli pepper situations of course.

How? or are you pulling my tonker? :shock:

And yes any pair is just two socks, harrrumph. :D

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:50 pm
by Cat
Got another random grey one now. It's over there, balled up defensively. The cat was sick on it earlier, and now it's growling. Help?

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:43 pm
by shade
Cat wrote:Got another random grey one now. It's over there, balled up defensively. The cat was sick on it earlier, and now it's growling. Help?


There there Cat, just coax it back to its natural habitat at the bottom of the laundry basket and your grey sock will be fine. You tend to find the odd grey sock is quite adept at survival. No matter how many I throw in the bin, there always seems to be one lurking at the back of my sock draw.