Waht do you make of Ch 4's 'City of Vice'?

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Waht do you make of Ch 4's 'City of Vice'?

Postby auldMotherBegg » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:27 pm

Absolutely LOVE the clothing, and the sets... just what I imagine the pubs, brothels and street life, etc, might have looked in the 18th century.

And the story line wasn't bad, once I became used to the guy narrating it (Henry Fielding) jumping in here and there. :roll:

Did it seem to anyone else like it was filmed using some sort of grey filter? My picture seems especially dim when I watch it, with less contrast. (Or maybe I need a new TV? :wink: )

I wasn't sure about the format... the cut-ins to the street maps, then fading to the actual scenes/sets should be wonderful, yet it all moves so quickly I can't get the good of them... (Thank goodness for video recording!)

I'll watch it with interest again this week, and see how it develops. :)



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Postby Eric the well read » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:59 pm

Hi,
We were looking forward to this as we know one of the extras appearing in it.

Yes, the clothing was "all right" (Except for the bit when Gini jumped onto the back of the sofa and screamed "AARGH !-machined cuffs"!)- which is normal
when watching any historical drama in this house!
Yes the filter was too dark, directors seem to think that anything historical from georgian to dickens equals no colour!
I quite liked the graphics 'flips' and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series

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Postby steve stanley » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:25 pm

Nicely researched...Reasonably costumed...If only they didn't feel the need to be so "Arty"........
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Postby auldMotherBegg » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:47 pm

Yes, well put... too 'arty'... spot on. (But still fun!)



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Postby lidimy » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:04 pm

Arty?

Swap the 't' for an 's', more like :?

Can't enjoy a program with some much swearing, um... how to put it... sexual activity? in it!


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Postby Annis » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:09 pm

I thought it was alright.

I wasn't really paying much attention to what was happening because I was sewing.


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Postby Lord Byron » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:40 pm

lidimy wrote:Arty?

Swap the 't' for an 's', more like :?

Can't enjoy a program with some much swearing, um... how to put it... sexual activity? in it!


What were you expecting from a programme called "City of Vice"?? :?: :roll:



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Postby Annis » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Lord Byron wrote:
lidimy wrote:Arty?

Swap the 't' for an 's', more like :?

Can't enjoy a program with some much swearing, um... how to put it... sexual activity? in it!


What were you expecting from a programme called "City of Vice"?? :?: :roll:


People holding hands and skipping through fields and saying things like 'By gove' and 'what ho!' and 'Toodle pip!'


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Postby Simon Atford » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:34 pm

What's the deal with John Fielding's black headband?

And what was the purpose of the stange device (looked a bit like a snooker table with middle taken out) that they shackled the prisoners to :?:



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Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:05 pm

I think it could have done with some more naked women.


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Postby Eric the well read » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:36 pm

Marcus Woodhouse wrote:I think it could have done with some more naked women.
I'll go now.


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Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:05 am

No a brothel :D


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Postby Phil the Grips » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:41 pm

Black headband was a sign that you are blind when not wearing your dark glasses- helped other folk not make a twunt of themselves or at least get out of the way.

Thge table is a way to shackle lots of prisoners to one place for a trial so the judge can view them all and pass sentence one- by-one for ease.

I liked it once I got used to the style- best described as "Taggart in Tricorns"* or "Bergerac in Bagnios"** and shall continue to watch it.

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Postby Simon Atford » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:25 am

Interesting use of the word macaroni (meaning a fop or a dandy) in this week's episode.

I first heard the term in song Yankee Doodle Dandy as a child and for years thought it was something to do with pasta :lol:

The word (in this context) is still in use in America and is often used by rappers, though often shortend to "mac".



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Postby Phil the Grips » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:26 pm

Macaroni is different from a Dandy- it specifically implies the Italian aristo influence of gaudy dress and effeminate manners in men of the C18th.

Fop would be the English derived equivalent fom the C17th onwards.

Beau Brummel turned into the Dandy in the C19th by making it very a maculine movement considering quality of tailoring and muted colour palete instead-modelled on C16th ideals, in turn modelled on Classical ideals.


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Postby auldMotherBegg » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:08 pm

That's interesting, Phil. I admit, I had the same impression as Simon regarding the meaning of the word 'Macaroni' and it's usage as synomous with 'Dandy'..

Second episode... Pretty good, getting used to the format, OK story. And like the first, lots of sexual content. I know it's just past the watershed, but I can imagine there will be lots of parents trying to answer awkward questions from their young-uns, if they watch it, as well! :shock:

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Postby Simon Atford » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:51 pm

Interesting also that "Jamaica Mary" (Can't his real name I'm afraid) was reffered to by one character as an "Ethiopian". Was this a generic term for a Afro-Carribean person in the way that Pakistani was used to refer to anyone of Asian origin in the 1960s and '70s?



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Postby steve stanley » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:55 pm

I believe it was the polite/affected term...Most runaway descriptions just refer to Negroes.
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Postby 'Banastre' » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:34 pm

Well-made, nice costumes and a good storyline :) I'll be watching it again


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