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'Have a Caaaaaare!!!'

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:36 am

Whats the first use of this phrase?

By tradition I can go no further back than the 1920's but haven't looked at anything written yet.


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Postby Merlon. » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:23 pm

OED states:-

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Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:40 pm

Thanks for that. What i meant was (sorry for not being clearer) was in ref to a warning before weapons are fired.


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Postby acecat999 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:52 pm

Why.

are the MOD telling snipers to shout it now


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Postby Mark Griffin » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:44 pm

Because I'm interested in knowing? Call it idle curiosity prompted by my full time work in historical reconstruction and the wish to understand how and why re-enactors do and say things whilst saying it's empirical fact.


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Postby Sasha » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:20 am

I've never thought it to be anything other than a reenactorism designed to make other people aware you're about to fire a piece of ordnance. Translated into Mummerset because 'Fire in the Hole!' would be difficult to explain outside the late C20.

Nobody told me this, incidentally, it just seemed the only logical explanation. We have to to do stuff that people on real battlefields didn't because they were really trying to hurt someone. :)


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Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:41 am

Thanks for that Sasha. So that's now to the mid 1970's catered for...


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Postby ceejy » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:43 am

It has been used in the mock gunning session on board the Golden Hinde for as long as I can remember Griff, accompanied by getting people to put their fingers in their ears and open their mouths to mitigate the damage to ears caused by the sound waves. :crazy: :o Whoever devised the program in the mists of time put it in, so that brings you up to Elizabethan - its followed by "Give Fire!"

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Postby Simon Atford » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:53 pm

ceejy wrote:It has been used in the mock gunning session on board the Golden Hinde for as long as I can remember Griff, accompanied by getting people to put their fingers in their ears and open their mouths to mitigate the damage to ears caused by the sound waves. :crazy: :o Whoever devised the program in the mists of time put it in, so that brings you up to Elizabethan - its followed by "Give Fire!"

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We always tell people to cover their ears rather place their fingers inside in case the shock causes them to stab themselves in the brain or something.



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Postby Mark P. » Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:42 pm

Fortification and Military Discipline 1688
Exercise of the Fire Lock
The Soldiers are to have a care to make no motion until the word of command be given and ended; for that the handling of Arms and the motion must be done at the same time.
Musqueteers have a care to the Exercise; ......blah blah, 37 motions later etc....


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Re: 'Have a Caaaaaare!!!'

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:02 pm

yes, but that's nothing to do with a warning about they are about to fire anything. Its just a note to do the drill properly.


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Postby Sasha » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:57 pm

Apologies for the monster link but here is it being used in the sense of 'attention'. Still not directly an artillery warning though.

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Re: 'Have a Caaaaaare!!!'

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:07 pm

Thanks for that. I'm pretty confident that I can file it in the massive drawer marked 'reenactorism'....


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