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Clay, and what to do with it

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:28 pm
by Annis
OK, ive now bought 500g of terracota coloured air drying clay.

Im going to make some stuff out of it for Kentwell (tudor) and i thought about some die and some beads for necklaces.

But what else can i make simply? Would crosses be suitable for an Elizabethan period?

Thanks

Annis x

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:30 am
by dragonskie2000
Don't know if they are still period for you, but coil pots are realy easy as are pinch pots. The two styles can be used together. It would be relatively simple to make some small jars/pots.

Unfortunately I have no idea when certain techniques of pottery fell in or out of favour after 11th century. :?

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:43 am
by Annis
Thanks.

I dont think the Tudors had any coil pots, well, i havent seen any aroung kentwell.

I have seen a really sweet little dish, like one to put salt or something of the sort in, which i thought i maight try and make!

Annis x

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:23 pm
by Cat
Just be aware that air drying clay isn't waterproof. You could try making some tudor tiles-google for patterns. When I've used air-drying clay at work we have 'glazed' it with poster paint and then PVA glue. From the '10 foot rule' it looks ok, but wouldn't take close scrutiny.

Ultimately you may be better off getting some nice terracotta clay and trying a home-firing at the base of a bonfire. I've never had it hot enough to vitrify the glaze, but it has produced an acceptable (if smoky) earthenware. The best people to ask are Kate Tiler, and Jim the Pot.
(Kate posts here, I think Jim has done.)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:10 pm
by Karen Larsdatter
Maybe some toys, like miniature pots, miniature three-footed pot, or miniature goblet? These were made in Raeren, but Raeren ware was also exported to England in the 15th-16th centuries (like these drinking jugs).

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:17 pm
by Annis
oooh thankyou!

I've always (well, for the last few months) wanted to make a friendship cup with the three handles.

Karen, the page could not be displayed for the toy picture!

Annis x

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:02 pm
by gregory23b
Jim t Pot has some interesting things to say regarding unfired clay as disposable ware, but for earlier periods.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:39 pm
by Karen Larsdatter
Annis wrote:Karen, the page could not be displayed for the toy picture!
Yikes! Okay, lemme try just posting the URLs, instead of being all clever with linked text ...
http://www.kikirpa.be/www2/cgi-bin/wwwo ... 0=10133150
http://www.kikirpa.be/www2/cgi-bin/wwwo ... 0=50002791
http://www.kikirpa.be/www2/cgi-bin/wwwo ... 0=50002790

The "Buried Treasure: Finding Our Past" exhibit at the British Museum featured a few miniature cooking & serving vessels, but all of the ones in that exhibition were metal. See http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/compa ... d=OBJ12076 for pictures & descriptions of some of them.

I have a few other ceramic toys linked to from http://www.larsdatter.com/toys.htm -- but these three are the only ones from the 16th century. Here are a few of the ceramic toys from the later Middle Ages, though:
http://home.bawue.de/~wmwerner/essling/ ... mel08.html
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c04a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c05a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c06a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c07a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c08a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c09a.jpg
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/MI07850c10a.jpg

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:45 pm
by Annis
Thankyou!

The toys are so sweet!

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:42 am
by Annis
I've printed a few pictures off of the vessals that i will try and shape from clay. I'll also have a try at some dolls :D

Can't wait to get my hands dirty!

Annis x

(woooo! my 1000th post!)

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:44 am
by Annis
Ok, so I've made some stuff

A pot
Loads of beads for necklaces
and a cross (with a loop for it to be strung)

I cant attach the picture ive taken, so if you want a look PM me with your email address or something :D

Annis x

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:28 pm
by Annis

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:02 am
by guthrie
Looks fine to me. SO does it just dry in the air, or should it be fired? If you painted some glazes onto then and fired them it would be more colourful.

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:44 am
by Annis
It does dry in the air, but I stuck them in the cupboard above the aga which speeded up the process.
I dont have any glazes, but I used poster paint with a coating of glue, but I don't like them that much, they look a bit tacky and fake to me.

A x

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:37 pm
by guthrie
Tacky and fake? You mean like they are made of cardboard? They look fine to me. Many people find the first examples of their own handiwork are not up to what they would actually like to make.

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:57 pm
by Marcus Woodhouse
try not to be so critical of yourself Annis if only because it does the rest of us out of a job.

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:04 pm
by Annis
I think the coloured ones are brilliant!

:lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:24 pm
by ViscontesseD'Asbeau
Annis, I read somewhere that medieval poppets (dolls) often had clay heads/were made of clay. Don't know the practicalities of it, but they'd be interesting. :D

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:27 pm
by Annis
ooh that sounds very interesting!