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What are Whore's patches?

a sexually transmitted disease?
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an item of clothing?
6
20%
where she stand to drum up trade?
5
17%
a facial adornment?
12
40%
something else?
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23%
 
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I've just been reading the intro to Zach Wyldes 1711 fencing manual. Now amoungst the colourful ranting about other authours & the price of printing he uses the phrase "...looks as Naked without these Ornaments, as a Puritane without his band, or a Whore without her Patches."

So what are Whore's patches? :shock:

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I have to say I don't know the answer, but on joining the police (as a civilian) I was told the reason that some ladies of the night carry bricks...

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Details escape me (references are miles away) but I believe there were various regulations in different towns concerning what whores had to wear: In some places their clothes had to be worn inside out (IIRC), in others striped hoods were required ... My guess is that this refers to such regulations, with them having to wear visible patches (perhaps of a particular colour, or just contrasting ?) ?

Best I can do without the books ... anyone got references handy ?

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Kate Tiler wrote:I have to say I don't know the answer, but on joining the police (as a civilian) I was told the reason that some ladies of the night carry bricks...
Do tell

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I think I have the answer but it will spoil the poll if I tell! I too would love to know Kate's info.

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The answer is up on the poll, damned if I can find a confirmation though.
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gregory23b wrote:The answer is up on the poll, damned if I can find a confirmation though.
Oh go on Jorge spill the beans. I only put the poll on as a laugh.

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Only a guess, I reckon it is the item of clothing/badge thing, something sticking in my mind, but as I said damned if I can find out.

I was hoping to lure the answer out of someone who actually knew for certain, you know lay down the glove and someone step in and say 'no it isn't smart *rse' works sometimes.

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Zach Wylde an "intriguing" text.

Whores wore decorative beauty spot patches made up of small patches of cloth to cover up sores on their faces which would otherwise detract from their ability to pull in the punters.
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Funny how grips would know these things....my cunning artifice worked muhahhahh

thanks Grips.
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I was told that the bricks were to enable the shorter ladies of the profession to be able to stand a little taller...

Either that or in an emergency to make the camel run faster...

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Phil the Grips wrote:Zach Wylde an "intriguing" text.

Whores wore decorative beauty spot patches made up of small patches of cloth to cover up sores on their faces which would otherwise detract from their ability to pull in the punters.
Weren't beauty patches a general fashion thing in C18 anyway (worn at court etc) ? Does this pre-date that fashion ?

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Alan E wrote:Weren't beauty patches a general fashion thing in C18 anyway (worn at court etc) ? Does this pre-date that fashion ?
Dunno much more but whores were more likely to have greater evidence of secondary stage STIs, where the infection becomes obvious from physical symptoms, as a risk of the job so the patches would be more necessary to maintain themselves in work and they would be more ghastly without them than your average Toff.

Interesting factoid- the last person to have tertiary stage STIs ( where you go psychotic)was an old lady who only died five years ago in a hospital just outside Edinburgh. Antibiotics has now made it a thing of the past.
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Interesting that they were specifically associated with prostitutes and also a fashion item with toffs ! Like they're playing at being prostitutes (I s'pose some things stay the same then :roll: )

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The illustrations show stars, moons, coach and horses, hearts and little circles, etc etc. They were also worn to emphasis a nice bit of the face as 'in look here, aren't I luverly'. I have worn them, and if they are made out of black silk you forget you are wearing them.

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Alan E wrote:Interesting that they were specifically associated with prostitutes and also a fashion item with toffs ! Like they're playing at being prostitutes (I s'pose some things stay the same then :roll: )
Although not all that odd - during Robert Louis Stevenson's time, it was quite the 'in thing' for upper- and middle class men to associate with prostitutes - few actually had sex with them, they just liked being with what they saw as a rough crowd.
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Is there any evidence of whores patches earlier than 18th century?

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Yes Strumpet, they had them in the late 17th century too.

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Any evidence in the 15th or were they happy to be pock ridden!!!

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strumpet wrote:Any evidence in the 15th or were they happy to be pock ridden!!!
Nobody had sex in the C15th. It was banned by the church. So there was no social disease. And you just imagine you exist. 8)

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Borsch Monster wrote:
strumpet wrote:Any evidence in the 15th or were they happy to be pock ridden!!!
Nobody had sex in the C15th. It was banned by the church. So there was no social disease. And you just imagine you exist. 8)
Can you verify that from three different and independant sources though ? If not, I don't see how you could possibly put it forward as truth. :twisted:

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