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Cupping?!?!?!?!?

Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:38 pm

Was doing some research and came across this picture. It was simple named 'cupping' and dated to 1519, not entirely sure but I think the country of origin is Germany.

Can anyone enlighten me to what this procedure is? :shock:
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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:40 pm

From dictionary.com:

cup·ping /ˈkʌpɪŋ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhp-ing] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun. the process of drawing blood from the body by scarification and the application of a cupping glass, or by the application of a cupping glass without scarification, as for relieving internal congestion.

Origin: 1350–1400
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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:42 pm

Which from looking at the picture would make sense - man holding cloth, vessels on the floor...


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Postby sally » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:45 pm

Basically, you scratched the skin with a blade, then warmed a glass cupping vessel and applied it over the wound, the cooling glass makes a slight vacuum which helps encourage the blood to flow. ( End result a bit like applying leeches, but suitablefor vegans if you want to think of it that way :lol: )



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Postby Phil the Grips » Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:46 pm

Still happens to day- infact I know of one research project at the moment for EBCH/clinical purposes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupping

(Oriental and European cupping is fairly similar in pactice- even if the underling logic is fairly different)


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Postby Dave B » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:08 pm

Apparently they did it to mad king george a lot. perhaps thats why he was annoyed?


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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:34 pm

Niiice.... :lol:

I thought they were on the loo and the buckets were catching, uh, other things. Maybe not!

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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:37 pm

You have one sick mind!


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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:42 pm

Says you!

Besides, my idea was perfectly plausable... it's just a fault of my visual perspective. I thought the basins were under the bench, not behind.


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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:47 pm

And the bloke is going to wipe their bottoms for them I suppose?!


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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:52 pm

No, he's busy fitting bras, to the reverse.


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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:03 pm

:lol:


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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:28 pm

And he only has one shoe on! How unfortunate!


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Postby Malvoisin » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:14 pm

And here's a video of cupping in action *click*. Go to #5 Baltic summer and do another click on the watch a clip from Estonia. Watch Michael Palin having fun.
About two and a half minutes in, after the leeches have finished he gets a good ol' cuppin' :shock:


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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:21 pm

Beautifully done!


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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:22 pm

ooh, that was really interesting :D


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Postby Lady Cecily » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:06 am

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Postby Lady Cecily » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:07 am

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Postby Thomas Hayman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:30 am

This is not one to try if you haven't done it before. I have a nice crescent shaped burn mark on my arm from some 'experimental archaeology' that went wrong. its not as easy as it would first seem!!


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Postby Annis » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:42 pm

Dont worry, I'm not going to attempt anything like that! It's just interesting to see it in action.


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Postby Mad Monk of Mitcham » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:20 pm

The trick is to get cupped, then tell tales of fighting off a Kraken (monster squid) during your travels.

The cupping will leave you with marks which will support your story..... :lol: :twisted: :lol:



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Postby Annis » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:26 pm

:lol:


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Postby Carl / Sir Geoffrey » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:47 pm

Not sure about its use in medieval times, but it is still used today as a form of deep massage. As described above the cups are heated and placed on the skin. As they cool the partial vacuum (caused by the warmer, less dense air inside the cup cooling) draws on the muscle under the skin. Depending on the required effect larger or smaller cups are used.

I think I have this right - our pilates instructor had it done recently.

A quick search for cupping shows that as well as its apparent medicinal effect it is also used for more sensual purposes.


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Postby Tod » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:01 pm

Looking at those pictures, I once knew a girl.........................actually maybe this is the wrong forum for that.
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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:12 pm

It would have been used in medieval times where the patient was not up to being bled to rebalance the humours - ie pregnant women.

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Postby Type16 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:20 pm

I think what Tod is referig to is .........

So, when someone comes home from the office christmas party and their spouse asks about the Love Bites, they have an excuse of "Oh, I have just been to a Phlebotamist for some blood letting" :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby lidimy » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:24 pm

Type16 wrote:I think what Tod is refering to is .........

So, when someone comes home from the office christmas party and their spouse asks about the Love Bites, they have an excuse of "Oh, I have just been to a Phlebotamist for some blood letting" :lol: :lol: :lol:


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