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Hello all,

My pics are at:

www.dutchcelt.tk

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Greets Wim-Jaap aka dutchcelt aka William MacBran

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hallo, dank u voor de foto's, zij zijn zeer goed

aangezien u kunt vertellen, ben ik niet goed in het Nederlands :oops:

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Hello thomas,

I admire yer try!
It's not bad at all!

It's not correct dutch... but hey, I understood.

My girl and me agree on that it's a job welldone for someone from yorkshire!

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I pieced it together very badly form the little i knew and a translator :oops:

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Still admiring the try.

Most "foreigners" which come here on holidays orso, don't even try to speak dutch.

Most of the time a frenchman starts in french, then in broken english but never in dutch....

When a dutchman goes to france, he starts in broken (or splendid) french.
if they don't succeed they get out their dictionary and go on in french.
If then they won't succeed they try it in english, but most french don't want to speak english.

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Holland's a great place :)

I find that if you at least try a little of the lingo abroad - and laugh it off when you ask hoe zullen ve gaan, met de fiets of met de tandpasta? - then you will get a lot further. It's all about respect. I've lost count of the people I hav seen who treat others abroad as stupid because they can't always understand what they're on about.

I've lived in a variety of places around this fair isle and like the fact that even here I've picked up a little bit of the local dialects as I've gone.
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craig1459 wrote:Holland's a great place :)

I find that if you at least try a little of the lingo abroad - and laugh it off when you ask hoe zullen ve gaan, met de fiets of met de tandpasta? - then you will get a lot further. It's all about respect. I've lost count of the people I hav seen who treat others abroad as stupid because they can't always understand what they're on about.

I've lived in a variety of places around this fair isle and like the fact that even here I've picked up a little bit of the local dialects as I've gone.
Craig, if there's something I've always felt truly embarrassed about, it's the way in which British people abroad are such prats. A friend of mine was in Spain one year and saw a group of English lads beat up a foreigner who "Wasn't showing them enough respect". Their idea of respect, on the other hand, was to act like a lager lout.
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what I find annoying is for example a frenchy who starts in french to a dutchy.
When the dutchy doesn't understand they talk louder... but still in french.
and everytime they go louder and louder...
If it happens to me and I do understand what he/she is on about, I answer in Dutch.
and if they say they don't understand I go louder and LOUDER until they give up .... or until I get tired and then I say: Welcome to the Netherlands, we CAN speak english, can you?

I understand that dutch is not the easiest language, and that not everyone is capable of learning dutch... but most europeans can speak English and most of the times it is understandable english too.

@Craig: jokes and funny mistakes are a good way to make contact and it shows good will.
I don't mind speaking english, it's a second language to me, My english is not perfect, but hey I can make my point in english.
I think it's not that bad, but it's what others think right?

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Wim-Jaap wrote:what I find annoying is for example a frenchy who starts in french to a dutchy.
When the dutchy doesn't understand they talk louder... but still in french.
and everytime they go louder and louder...
If it happens to me and I do understand what he/she is on about, I answer in Dutch.
and if they say they don't understand I go louder and LOUDER until they give up .... or until I get tired and then I say: Welcome to the Netherlands, we CAN speak english, can you?
Ha Ha - yes - it's been a running joke here as well for years - the ignorant Brits abroad

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Hi Wim-Jaap, I am planning a family holiday to the Netherlands next summer. Any must-see historical sites or reconstructions that you could recommend? Or any lists of reenactment events in your country? Only been once before - a few days in Amsterdam and a day trip to Naarden.

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Wim-Jaap, who are the guys doing the Scottish stuff?
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John Waller wrote:Hi Wim-Jaap, I am planning a family holiday to the Netherlands next summer. Any must-see historical sites or reconstructions that you could recommend? Or any lists of reenactment events in your country? Only been once before - a few days in Amsterdam and a day trip to Naarden.

Cheers

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For re-enactment events in the Netherlands check out: http://www.lplg.nl

Historical sites, hmmz, there are some nice castles, we have historical museums like: Archeon and the historical open air museum in Eindhoven.

Do you have anything in particular in mind?


@ Alan_F: On the website? the guys doing scottish stuff is my own group ( http://www.clanmacbran.tk and a Belgian Group ( clan McNabracha) and there is a group doing napoleontic ( http://gordonhighlanders.cjb.net/)

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Can you tell me which period it is you do and why some of your guys have painted their faces blue? Is it a Dutch thing?
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They look scottish, and i'm assuming thats woade they're using.

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Thomas Hayman wrote:They look scottish, and i'm assuming thats woade they're using.
Except that woad wasn't being worn in the time when the plaid was being worn.
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ah, didn't know that. still, could be woade :wink:

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Ah oke, yes it is woads, there are some pics of a group that does Picts and they use woads as face paint.
The group is called Woads (http://www.woads.tk)

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Wim-Jaap wrote:Ah oke, yes it is woads, there are some pics of a group that does Picts and they use woads as face paint.
The group is called Woads (http://www.woads.tk)

Greetings Wim-Jaap
Can I take it that they have absolutely no interest in historical reality then?
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(smuggly smiles at Alan) :D

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They are not totally historical correct in activities... you've got that right.

We try to be, we do Jacobites and try to be as correct as possible... but we are still a fresh group... we just had our first season and are tuning our stuff to the period.

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Wim-Jaap wrote:They are not totally historical correct in activities... you've got that right.

We try to be, we do Jacobites and try to be as correct as possible... but we are still a fresh group... we just had our first season and are tuning our stuff to the period.

Greets Wim-Jaap
Actually, I think it's safer to say that they have got nothing historically right - blue painted faces, plaids and bagpipes? Is reading a history book anathema to them?

As to Jacobites.... Mcfarlane's Company in the US have a lot of good stuff on their website as do the some of the Lace Wars in the UK groups.

Purely out of interest, but why do Scottish History and not Dutch?
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ah the ones with the bag pipes... that'll be the Sassenachs (http://www.sassenachs.nl).
That's a drum and warpipe band, indeed no historical things.

Why do scottish and not dutch... I'm more interested in the whole celtic, scotland, ireland, breton kinda stuff.. dutch stuff is the things you learn at school... yugh

I looked at lotsa websites, including mcfarlane and lacewar and RAT... indeed lotsa info and nice stuff.

we're doing lotsa research now cause the national living history platform here asks that from their groups... we only recently joined them.

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you mention the 'national living history platform', do you have any more info on this. Is is an official body? does it regulate? I'm interested to know. In light of Cal's 'keep on topic' post, you may want to start a new thread (general history? gossip?) or PM me.

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Wim-Jaap wrote:ah the ones with the bag pipes... that'll be the Sassenachs (http://www.sassenachs.nl).
That's a drum and warpipe band, indeed no historical things.

Why do scottish and not dutch... I'm more interested in the whole celtic, scotland, ireland, breton kinda stuff.. dutch stuff is the things you learn at school... yugh

I looked at lotsa websites, including mcfarlane and lacewar and RAT... indeed lotsa info and nice stuff.

we're doing lotsa research now cause the national living history platform here asks that from their groups... we only recently joined them.

Greeting Wim-Jaap
Fair enough.

I had a look at the 'Woads' website, afraid it was all wrong in the historical reality dept, glad to see you've gone down a different route!
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Gandi wrote:you mention the 'national living history platform', do you have any more info on this. Is is an official body? does it regulate? I'm interested to know. In light of Cal's 'keep on topic' post, you may want to start a new thread (general history? gossip?) or PM me.

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forums/viewtopic.php?p=17749#17749

Made a new topic.

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Well looky here! More ducthies.. Hoi! *steekt hand op in groet*

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Gegroet BraveAnimal!

From where areth thou?...heheheh sorry

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Hai! Wij kennen elkaar wel in de wandelgangen van het LARP gebeuren. Ik woon in Friesland en begin voorzichtig rond te neuzen in het reenactment. 'Mijn' Larp vereniging Dunmoni is gebaseerd op de kelten cq de oude britse volkeren ( dumnoni, usipeti, iiceni, saxons enz enz). Aangezien mijn intresse daar en bij de Vikingen ligt is de stap naar reenactment niet zo groot.

Zit John uit Groningen ook niet bij jullie groepje?

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BraveAnimal wrote:Hai! Wij kennen elkaar wel in de wandelgangen van het LARP gebeuren. Ik woon in Friesland en begin voorzichtig rond te neuzen in het reenactment. 'Mijn' Larp vereniging Dunmoni is gebaseerd op de kelten cq de oude britse volkeren ( dumnoni, usipeti, iiceni, saxons enz enz). Aangezien mijn intresse daar en bij de Vikingen ligt is de stap naar reenactment niet zo groot.

Zit John uit Groningen ook niet bij jullie groepje?

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hahaa! That is horrible! Allow me to translate myself...

Hai! We must have seen eachother somewhere in the world of LARP. I live in Friesland and am starting to get familiar with reenactment. My favorite LArp sopciety Dunmonni is based on the Celts and Britisch tribes ( dumnonii, usipetii, icenii saxons etc.etc.) Considering i am mainly intwrested in that era and the Vikings, the next step to reenactment is not that large.

Is John from Groningen not in your group?


So sorry for going dutch on you and being lazy...

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