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New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:45 am

In specially made steel felt. Take wire wool and compress into sheet, then steam and shape.
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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby gregkhion » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:56 am

cant wait to see when its finish please do update this thread thanks :D


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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:00 am

sadly I'm going straight to the finish. I've fitted in several tv things and Wrest park since i posted this. And josh has put many hours into finishing it!

This is the Fogge Helm, a middle period jousting period which is part of a large collection of similar helms from English Churches thats unusually still in its original position. Its probably mid 15th but in this configuration it shows the changes that happened to it around 3rd 1/4 15th. Added neck plates, re-enforce on the front and on the other side, a breathe. Fingers crossed I'll be wearing it at Tatton park this weekend.
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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Rod Walker » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:13 am

Nice and interesting. How thick did you end up having the main plate and reinforce done in?



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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue May 05, 2015 10:52 pm

Cant exactly recall but 'reasonably chunky' is the best answer. Its close to the original. I'll have to dig out Josh's notes


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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue May 05, 2015 11:08 pm

Main front plate is 3mm, 11ish g, and i think the reenforce is 2mm so about 10. The reenforce will have a leather pad behind it as well to add a wee bit of absorption and lessen the noise.

Pic of the original attached. I chose not to go for its final incarnation, but to go for its interim stage of use. Mainly as that can be strapped to a variety of cuirasses I have, rather than make a bespoke one. That's for a later stage..
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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Rod Walker » Sun May 10, 2015 2:11 am

I like it. Nice to see something other than the 'usual' done.



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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon May 11, 2015 2:33 pm

I never do! I only do 'applicable'. Hence no gestech helms or similar. It arrived, fitted my head perfectly. Now to get it to fit the cuirass.....


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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Maga22 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:10 am

What kind of cost does something bespoke like this come to?



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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:20 pm

You'd be looking at around £1,500 for something properly made to match the original in the right thicknesses and in decent materials and production methods. But that's down to the individual armourer. Which country they are in makes a fair bit of difference too.

You might get it for £1k and you could easily go over £2k if you had more bells and whistles, decorations and gilding etc, added.


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Re: New hat on the way....

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:21 pm

I should add that what you need it for makes a difference to. If you are jousting seriously at a top level then you need to make a helm, and everything else, that's fit for purpose. You can have it made cheaper but corners would need to have been cut so you might regret it.


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