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Oxford Blues

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:13 pm
by Andy R
Just seen some WIP pictures of Waller's horse doing the Oxford Blues.

Also just been sent a picture of the newly updated pistol housings which are very nice also.

So enthused was I by them that I thought I would have to share...

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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:59 am
by Nigel
Nice job there andy

why Oxford bluew got to ask what they were doing ?

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:33 pm
by Andy R
Talking to Rob over the summer it was part of a timeline thing (I think) but it also goes hand in glove with Rupert's and their first Foot Guards displays.

The SKnot are doing Sedgemoor again next year, so it works well for that as well.

Other Waller's are also doing 16th Light Dragoons (1812) in conjunction with me, and 16th Lancer 1846 and WW1

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:02 pm
by Andysmith
Ey up...that there handsome grenadier of t'First Foote Guards on t'right o'th' Oxford Blues....is little ol' ME! I dunnarf scrub up well!

Oh yes...and where were you at Quebec this weekend Mr R?

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:07 pm
by Andy R
Andysmith wrote:Oh yes...and where were you at Quebec this weekend Mr R?
horribly, horribly skint.

the economic downturn is having it's evil way with us. :(

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:11 pm
by steve stanley
I'm not going to say how good is was then.............
Steve

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:17 pm
by Andy R
steve stanley wrote:I'm not going to say how good is was then.............
Steve
Nahh, fire away - start a thread in the 1700-1800 section, with pictures please.

Gutted to have missed it, but it is one of those (annoyingly re-occurring) things.

I did the last one 10 years ago at Basing house, and that was fantastic enough. With Stuart (forget his surname) as Montcalm and Keith Jepsom as Wolfe

and 30 white coats - 30 without so much as a damn your eyes for your impertinence

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:21 pm
by steve stanley
Will work on full report....Just to make your day,the Milice is up as a unit again with me as NCO................got any spare fusils de chasse....? :)
Steve

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:26 pm
by Andy R
steve stanley wrote:Will work on full report....Just to make your day,the Milice is up as a unit again with me as NCO................got any spare fusils de chasse....? :)
Steve
closest thing I have is my 17th century doglock - I almost bought the 1690's fusil once when Ron had one for sale for £250.

I have bess's, bess carbines, 1734 fusil, 1756 Spanish fusil, a paget carbine and a doglock, but no fusil de chasse

edit - fab news about the milice..!!

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:29 pm
by steve stanley
Andy R wrote:
edit - fab news about the milice..!!
We hope so...Just working out how to post the Facebook piccies.......
Steve

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:26 am
by Andy R
Nigel wrote:Nice job there andy

why Oxford bluew got to ask what they were doing ?
Hi Nigel,

got this feedback from Rob...
Rob Hill wrote: Wallers had a Blues Impression since the early 1980,s made up with old Chelsea pensioner coats. The early impression was for the 1745 and the coats had red turnbacks, Lapells and cuffs along with white Baldrics, Carbine slings (With red cording) and boot cuffs and Tricorns. In 1985 we did the first Sedgemoor campeign and the coats were altered for this (Red turn backs removed and the lappel facings turned inward). This was then forgotten for the most part except on the odd occasion when a couple would be used for our Cavalry through the ages display. As the Chelsea coats needed some work on them and new leatherwork etc was required to bring the Blues restoration impression up to scratch, we decidid to have four complete sets made up from scratch - Blue Coats, Breeches, Buff leatherwork (Carbine slings need to be blinged up with gold lace), New pistol and saddle housings. The upside is that the swords and Carbines of the ECW can be used although not entirely accurate in design. This is very much an on going project.
What I have suggested for the old coats is to have them relined red and re do the turnbacks etc. As we still have the original leatherwork (Needs cleaning) we can at least do a reasonable impression of the mid 18thC Blues. Watch this space.
As an asside, The "Oxford Blue" is depicted in numerous illustrations with numerous shades. We have used the darker French Blue to serve this purpose.
The pistol housing ciphers were done by a chap in Cannock. I stitched the lacing on and fit the cloths to the leather backing. The embroidery was very well done except it was very colourful and needed toning down hence the gold.

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:28 pm
by Nigel
Ta very nice

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:22 pm
by jemmasmith0
Wow It's awesome. The snaps are really nice. are you a professional horse rider???

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:22 pm
by Andy R
And here's a pic that Rob posted from 1982

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Doesn't look bad for the time it was taken in.

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:18 pm
by Tod
Except if they are regulars they should be wearing red. Now if I could only talk Rob into joining RaT.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:17 am
by Andy R
Tod wrote:Except if they are regulars they should be wearing red. Now if I could only talk Rob into joining RaT.
No Tod,

The Blues always wear blue - in fact in todays Blue and Royals they still wear blue.

It's one of the exceptions of the Royal Horse Guards.

Here they are in the "1742" uniform
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And in 1758
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And today
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You were obviously never given enough Britains soldiers as a kid...!! :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:44 am
by Tod
I had medieval soldiers :D and a castle and every thing.
I didn't know about the blue uniforms, I assume that is some sort of Royal link like the artillery? In the first picture is he wearing some sort of buff sleeveless jerkin and that is one hell of a sword belt.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:07 am
by Redders
I think it's just his belts drawn VERY thick?

I don't think they have artillery links? (Happy to be corrected)

I'm pretty sure the Blue comes from being a Royal Regt.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:44 am
by Tod
Redders wrote:I think it's just his belts drawn VERY thick?

I don't think they have artillery links? (Happy to be corrected)

I'm pretty sure the Blue comes from being a Royal Regt.
Thats what I said. Hence Royal Blue.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:00 am
by Andy R
to be honest I don't know for sure.

Could be a draw back to the Oxford Blues having Blue coats as that precedes them being royal I think - and of course most royal regiments content themselves with blue facings.

Tod, I had a wild west fort (home made of course as things were then) with Arabs and French Forreign Legion as the key protagonists - although Airfix Commando's also had a habbit of turning up where they were least expected,

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:45 pm
by steve stanley
I think Lord Oxford just liked Blue....Then it became a tradition...BTW they were basically Crookes Regt. of Parliamentary Horse re-raised following a riot by the Fifth Monarchy Men soon after the Restoration.
Steve

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:46 pm
by Andy R
So you are saying they are a bunch of Crooke's? :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:48 pm
by steve stanley
Andy R wrote:So you are saying they are a bunch of Crooke's? :wink:
God,I make a good straight man............ :)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:49 pm
by Andy R
Well you always struck me as being strictly butter side up

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:53 pm
by steve stanley
Andy R wrote:Well you always struck me as being strictly butter side up
You say the sweetest things............ :oops: