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New book on Prestonpans 1745

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:28 pm
by Mark P.
Found this on Amazon, due out early next year.

The Battle of Prestonpans 1745 (Paperback)
by Martin Margulies (Author)

Paperback: 192 pages
Publisher: Tempus Publishing Ltd (10 Feb 2007)
Language English
ISBN: 0752440357
Product Dimensions: 6.1 x 9.3 inches
RRP: £17.99
Amazon Price: £11.87

This is the first history of the Jacobite battle fought on 21st September 1745 between the forces of the Hanoverian regime and Prince Charles Edward Stuart, better known as 'Bonnie Prince Charles'. Lieutenant-General Sir John Cope, the leader of the English army, has been ridiculed, in song and in history books, for losing the Battle of Prestonpans - the first major battle of the 1745 Jacobite Rising. His defeat led to the invasion of England, in which the Jacobites almost drove King George II from the throne. But was Cope really to blame? The Jacobite Risings occurred after Parliament ousted King James Stuart in 1688 and installed a new dynasty. Stuart loyalists, many of them based in Scotland, took up arms repeatedly in futile attempts to restore James' descendants. The 1745 Rising, led by Bonnie Prince Charlie, was the last. Martin Margulies traces Scottish history up to 'the '45', describes the sharply contrasting weapons and tactics of the opposing armies, and follows the Prestonpans campaign from the time Charlie landed, almost alone, on the remote Isle of Eriskay through the moment his tiny force destroyed Cope's regulars in an early morning highland charge.


Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:22 pm
by Tod
That'll be the Goverment Army then, not the Hanovarian one, which was in Hanover.

Mark I think you know what I mean ;-)

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:40 pm
by m300572
not the Hanovarian one, which was in Hanover.

Did the Elector of Hanover borrow any of this army to support his British government?

Is there still an Elector of hanvoer or did it disappear after the unification of Germany in the 19th C? (digression but it just occured to me!)

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:29 pm
by Nigel
Nope he borrowed a large chunk of the British one to support his Hanoverain one though

Think hanover as a state disppeared into Prussia in the 1860's

May be wrong

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:15 pm
by Mark P.
According to the internet so it must be true.
Hanover became a kingdom in 1813 but in 1866 Hanover was annexed by Prussia and the king deposed.

The current claimant to the throne is Ernst August V and he is the third and present husband of Princess Caroline of Monaco.

He is listed as a pretender to the throne of Hanover

At least now redcoats and jacobites can toast the health of the pretender together with a clear conscience.


Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:26 pm
by Neibelungen
Shame they sold off all the family silver last year.

Sotherby's did a marvelous catalogue of sale though.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:57 am
by Mark P.
Any interesting mid C18th stuff in the catalogue?

Apparently they used the money to tart up their castle in Germany. Something I think we can all sympathise with. :lol:

One other thing I read is that the current claimant also has a right to the restitution of his English peerage.

Wait for it

The Duke of Cumberland. :)


Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:21 pm
by Mark P.
Here is a photo from the 250th anniversary re-enactment in 1995.
Apologies for the quality but its a scan of a photocopy.
Perhaps this is why we don't go back too often.


Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:01 pm
by Tod
Hot off the press, we've been asked to go back in 2008.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:46 am
by m300572
Ah, happy days - I was off on the left of the photo hacking through the Government highlanders with a lochaber axe!

When we do it again we'll need to make sure the beer tent has stronger guy ropes!!!!

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:37 am
by Tod
m300572, who are you, one of LW types? Have you still got kit?

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:21 pm
by m300572
I am in fact a Loudon's type. We organised the 1995 Prestonpans gig. Since then I have achieved the dizzy heights of CO. I'll see you at Lauder for the Culloden do in March.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:30 pm
by Mark P.
A copy of the house of hanover sale catalogue is up on e-bay. ... dZViewItem


Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:01 am
by Tod
Any one bought the Prestonpans book yet?

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:34 pm
by Mark P.
I've got a copy on order from Amazon but the publication date has slipped so it might be 2 days, 2 weeks or 2 months.

There is a part article on Johnnie Cope written by the same author, online at ( ... etent.html).


Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:11 pm
by Mark P.
I had an e-mail from amazon to say the book shipped yesterday so it looks like it should be available online and probably in shops shortly.


Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:29 pm
by Mark P.
For those that can't get a copy of this book there is now a new pamphlet (about 30 pages) by Dr. Christopher Duffy called 'Victory at Prestonpans' available for download from: ... duffy.html

( ... duffy.html)