A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Henrik Bjoern Boegh » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:06 pm

I'll see what can be done about a picture.

Wim, you're wondering why no other paintings show the drawstring. My guess would be that because the portrait of Mungo Murray is the only one to show it is because it's one of the few paintings that show a short enough doublet or jacket for it to be visible. It certainly not visible if you're wearing 18th century waistcoats and shortcoats.

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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Grymm » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:00 pm

Not sure if it's relevant
Circa 1660 from a map of Aberdeen by James Gordon

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Could be a wee kilt, equally could be petticoat breeches like wot later sailors wear.

Petticoat breeches fFrench 1660-1670 from the V&A

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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Saint Egregious » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:33 am

Can you just imagine the cannontickler in a set of those? Haaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Grymm » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:03 pm

Mindbleach required after that mental image.......


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Saint Egregious » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:08 am

Yes Mr.Grymm, it is indeed a most painful sight. But as I am told, it happens on a regular basis, sad but true, and no amount of bleach is going to make it go away. So all we can do is try to be supportive, and hope he gets better. Soon. Yes very soon, I'm running out of mindbleach. Can I beg some of yours? Please?


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby KeithFarrell » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:26 am

cannontickler wrote:
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Alastair Grant Mohr, honorary Champion to the Laird of Grant,
Painted by Richard Waitt


That is a very curved sword he is holding here... With a dirk on his hip, a musket at his side, and a pistol in his left hand. And a fairly martial moustache of course! I haven't seen many examples of this kind of sword in art or in museums, it would be interesting to find out a bit more about them. May I ask where you found these various portraits?


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby cannontickler » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:02 pm

KeithFarrell wrote:
cannontickler wrote:
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Alastair Grant Mohr, honorary Champion to the Laird of Grant,
Painted by Richard Waitt


That is a very curved sword he is holding here... With a dirk on his hip, a musket at his side, and a pistol in his left hand. And a fairly martial moustache of course! I haven't seen many examples of this kind of sword in art or in museums, it would be interesting to find out a bit more about them. May I ask where you found these various portraits?



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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Lord Byron » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:03 pm

I thought he looked familiar... :twisted:

http://postimage.org/image/942tkf38/

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Even concealing his withered left arm very ably with the shield.

Strangely enough, there is quite a nice picture of the real young Wilhelm and his father Scotted up at Balmoral:

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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Saint Egregious » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:52 pm

That is a very curved sword he is holding here... With a dirk on his hip, a musket at his side, and a pistol in his left hand. And a fairly martial moustache of course! I haven't seen many examples of this kind of sword in art or in museums, it would be interesting to find out a bit more about them.


Those sorts of basket hilts are called “Turcael”. Here are few good places to start your search:

http://netsword.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000035.html

http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showth ... ved-Blades


http://www.myspace.com/black_knight_69/ ... 5263570%7D

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4601


Now what we need are some pictures of those most elusive drawstring kilts.
Didn't a few people say that they had experimented with them in college? Oh no.......really? What? Not drawstring kilts? I am sooooo embarrassed! So they tried to do what? No, that's not right.


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Henrik Bjoern Boegh » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:26 am

I'll take photo's once I get the plaid out to wear it and that won't be for some time, so have patience.

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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby Saint Egregious » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:49 am

The secret of patience is doing something else in the meanwhile.


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Re: A Highland Revival Drawstring Plaid.

Postby KeithFarrell » Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:20 pm

Saint Egregious wrote:
That is a very curved sword he is holding here... With a dirk on his hip, a musket at his side, and a pistol in his left hand. And a fairly martial moustache of course! I haven't seen many examples of this kind of sword in art or in museums, it would be interesting to find out a bit more about them.


Those sorts of basket hilts are called “Turcael”. Here are few good places to start your search:

http://netsword.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000035.html
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showth ... ved-Blades
http://www.myspace.com/black_knight_69/ ... 5263570%7D
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4601


Thank you very much, I shall have a read at those links and see what I can find out about the style of sword :)


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