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Derby Dec' 2007

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:19 am
by Mark P.
Is it too soon to start a Derby thread?
Anyone got any details or warning orders?
The 13th, 36th and 47th should be there, any others?

Mark P

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:50 pm
by Vic James
Yes, Derby is happening - on the 1st and 2nd December; Swarkestone on the Saturday, and a march and service in Derby on the Sunday, usual time from usual place (Wilmot Street).

Sadly, there will be no battle on the sunday this year, due to redevlopment of the battle site.

On Saturday, 11am onwards Crewe and Harpur powder issue.

12 noon, start of first battle with stunning government victory.

12.30pm, start of Jacobite relief headed by His Royal Highness to retake the encampment.

1pm, all over bar the torturing of certain cats and laying of wreaths etc.

Vic.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:35 am
by Tod
Thanks Vic, I'll circulate that to Lace Wars.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:11 pm
by Mark P.
Are they digging up the Cathedral Green then?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:31 pm
by Rob Elliott
There will be some of the 10th Dragoons there. I'm going and I think Mr Blackmore is also going.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:06 pm
by bonnieprincecharlie
Yup, they're digging up the Green and putting in a footbridge over the river there, new paths etc. They are also planning to turn the BPC statue around to face the river (frustratingly). The Green is boarded up while work takes place, so there is no access to the statue or the grass. It is a shame for this year, but that's why we are compensating with the expanded battle plans for Swarkestone....

... which is the skirmish I always prefer anyway!

Look forward to seeing you all there,

Arran

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:14 pm
by Tod
If we can't get to the statue, I assume no wreath laying?
Why do they want to turn the statue round, won't it be facing the wrong way?

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:33 pm
by Steve of RaT
Tod wrote:Why do they want to turn the statue round, won't it be facing the wrong way?


Aesthetics. pure and simple aesthetics. or so I was told (possibly by George)

how many highlanders will it take to correct the orientation one quiet night in December? :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:55 pm
by bonnieprincecharlie
Yes, you're right about the aesthetics. They want BPC to be pointing down the green and over the new bridge. We did mention the whole north/south symbolism, but to little avail. I think they thought I was mad.

As for wreaths, we are hopefully going to lay them in the Cathedral, where there is a large memorial stone plaque marking the fact that the Prince attended divine service there.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:33 pm
by Andy R
bonnieprincecharlie wrote:They want BPC to be pointing down the green and over the new bridge.


Surely he should be hoofing it in ladies clothing? with the motto "stitch that pall, we're offski"

(sorry, an old Rab C. Nesbit quote)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NGwpcE9ZQM

(go to 6:16)

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:53 am
by m300572
The Green is boarded up while work takes place


so we paint Carlisle Castle on the outside of the boards and re-enact the siege - think laterally man! :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:09 am
by Mark P.
If anyone thinks they might suffer withdrawal symptoms from missing the Sunday skirmish there is a video of the 2006 event on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzxjEDe ... re=related

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzxjEDe ... re=related)

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:03 am
by m300572
I think there's a few Glenbucket's planning on coming down.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:15 am
by Neil Johnston
I think there's a few Glenbucket's planning on coming down.


Peter, is that a promise or a threat!!!! :lol:

Lock up your Grannies

Cheers
Neil

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:36 am
by Tod
Mark P. wrote:If anyone thinks they might suffer withdrawal symptoms from missing the Sunday skirmish there is a video of the 2006 event on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzxjEDe ... re=related

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzxjEDe ... re=related)


Incredible. Corp. Paul is not in it and I am.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:52 am
by Tod
More info.
Officers, although this is a Charles Edward Stuart Society event military officers will be provided by Lace Wars.
Nick Pennock will command the Govt. forces.
Tod Booth (me) will command all the Jacobite forces.
Dale Yates will command all sword and targe men with out guns, but under my command.


Only members of recognised re-enactment groups i.e. SK, ECWS, Lace Wars, NFOE etc will be allowed to take part in the skirmish. There will be a briefing in the car park of the Crewe and Harper prior to the march and skirmish, you don't attend and you will not be allowed to take part.

Only Lace Wars Jacobites are to be involved in any hand to hand with the Redcoats. Other hand to hand to be arranged with Dale.

There will be one volley at the end of the skirmish from each side. This and all firing during the skirmish is under the command of the officers above and their delegates.

If you have queries please give me a call.

Tod
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:58 am
by bonnieprincecharlie
Dear Mr Booth,

We must thank you on behalf of myself and Our other supporters, for what you say is indeed true, and not much more can be said. Therefore We hope you will lead us onwards to victory: for, if We may so say,
ON YOUR HEAD BE IT.

His Royal Highness,
Charles Stuart, Prince Regent, Duke of Rothesay.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:44 am
by Alan_F
bonnieprincecharlie wrote:His Royal Highness,
Charles Stuart, Prince Regent, Duke of Rothesay.


You forgot "Prince of Wales".

Then again, so would I. :twisted:

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:41 pm
by Neil Johnston
Sadly I will not be able to make Derby this year due to work issues.......i.e. having too much of it to do. I am really disappointed as up until today it was looking like I would make it down. I hope all of those going have a great time anyway.
It does mean however that the money I had put aside for going can now be spent on more kit!!
:)

I do hope the forces of righteousness prevail, and the Prince Regent's arms are blessed with success.
Cheers
Neil

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:06 pm
by m300572
What you really mean Neil is the price of diesel means that hiring the pantechnicon to transport you wardrobe has become prohibitive!! :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:09 pm
by Neil Johnston
m300572 wrote:What you really mean Neil is the price of diesel means that hiring the pantechnicon to transport you wardrobe has become prohibitive!! :lol:


I've been rumbled...the huge cost of transporting my wardrobe for 2 days of afternoon and evening attire was indeed a consideration Pete!!! :)
Cheers
Neil

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:23 pm
by Tod
Start the collection in Edinburgh we'll be back in time for Christmas (so that's your extra funds allocated).
I was finishing off my rather nice capot yesterday. I'm sure its too well fitted :-0

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:28 pm
by James The Archer
Well I'm looking forward to watching you all re-enact (play) on Saturday :D

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:06 pm
by bonnieprincecharlie
Sorry to hear you aren't coming down Neil - I always feel better knowing there are Johnstons on the field!

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:31 am
by Neil Johnston
bonnieprincecharlie wrote:Sorry to hear you aren't coming down Neil - I always feel better knowing there are Johnstons on the field!

Arran thank you for your kind comments. "Last to arrive, first to leave" I think is the Johnston family motto so we're always close to the Prince :D
Seriously though, sorry to be missing it this year. I was looking forward to it as I've not been down for a couple of years, plus I had some new clothes to swank about in.
It has made me determined to ensure we get Glenbucket's organised in plenty of time for next year with transport etc. so we can get a maximum turnout.
Cheers
Neil

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:58 pm
by James The Archer
It looked like all had fun, various public jumpped with guns going off, The "biggest bang" Was Gary's blunderbus or should I say cannon!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:04 pm
by Wina McPod
It was a cracking w/e, and the weather stayed dry if not a tad windy for the sunday march.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:34 am
by bonnieprincecharlie
Thanks to all those who took part and/or came to watch. It is quite unbelievable how we manage to sort the weather out each year!

Swarkestone was excellent this year, and I look forward to the return of the Sunday battle for 2008 - but it was a fine showing all round.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:58 pm
by Tod
The battle on Saturday was the best I've event done there. Thanks to all the Jacobites who followed the some what complex orders (due to the very narrow road) I gave.
There were only 3 Jaocbites there with swords only, and it was impressive to see so many muskets, well done.

The Redcoats turned out in good numbers as well.

Sunday was a bit short of people, but special thanks have to go to Flemming's 36th who were the only Redcoats to turn up.

The RaT end of year meal was the first of many to come, thanks to all the members for their support this year, at times I need it!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:26 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Sounds like a good event. Does anyone have any pictures?

Cheers,
Henrik