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Breeches

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:12 am
by Neil Johnston
I have woollen breeches for my Jacobite Lowlander outfit but wondered what other materials if any would have been used for breeches in the 1745 -1746 period?
I guessed maybe leather (steady now :shock: ) and linen (maybe too soggy when wet :? ) but wondered if anyone had any other thoughts on common materials used?

Cheers
Neil

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:13 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Hi Neil,

I imagine any other fabric would be insufficient to protect you from the cold, especially during the freesing winter of '45-46.
For an officers impression it seems silk or velvet could be worn. Some time ago the webmistress at H&H shared an article about Robert MacGregor of Glencarnaig's clothes and their price.
http://www.kezarcelts.net/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1122855876

Cheers,
Henrik

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:46 pm
by Neil Johnston
Ah Henrik
Don't think I'm really up to officer standard clothing, all that velvet and silk, I leave that to the more fashion conscious amongst us......no names :wink:
I think wool is probably my limit.

Thanks for the link though very interesting source.
Cheers
Neil

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:47 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
What about linen breeches? Although not ideal for the Scottish winter, but if worn in better weather in the the other three seasons it would be sufficient. Was this a normal garment in the rest if the UK or were woolen breeks dominant?

And what would be the best book/source on British clothing of the mid 18th century? My bookshelf is rather lacking on that front... I know so much more about Scottish steel than the softer necessities :roll:

Cheers,
Henrik

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:51 pm
by Tod
If I recall there are examples some where maybe the V and A of leather breeches, and refernces to them in the 17th century, but not in Scotland.

Linen is OK, there's a thread on here some where about warm weatrher clothing.

As for me, my next project is a rather nice tartan frock coat 8)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:40 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Would that be in a black and red tartan? Pete said something about that at Cliveden.

Cheers,
Henrik

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:05 pm
by Tod
I bet he did, and so will Neil :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:30 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
And a nice tartan it is! The colours are pretty well picked for a chieftain or officer. Do you intend to have any braiding on it?

Cheers,
Henrik

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:13 pm
by Neil Johnston
My God
You miss out on being seen much in a couple of minutes of Visitor Centre film and you have to go with the boldest thing you can imagine........a tartan frock coat :roll:

I myself was wishing to tweak my impression this winter and besides my beautiful new gun from Gary have ordered a new sleeved waistcoat hence I was trying to do the breeches on the cheap.
I had hoped one of you would come on and say yes those cotton canvas ones you get in the States were all the rage in 1740s Lowland Scotland :D

Cheers
Neil

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:38 pm
by Tod
Henrik Bjoern Boegh wrote:And a nice tartan it is! The colours are pretty well picked for a chieftain or officer. Do you intend to have any braiding on it?

Cheers,
Henrik


The one I'm medilling on doesn't have much. It was lot less common than you might think.
If you've seen my green coat (French cut) that looks total class and is a plain colour but expensive cloth.


Neil Johnston wrote:My God
You miss out on being seen much in a couple of minutes of Visitor Centre film and you have to go with the boldest thing you can imagine........a tartan frock coat :roll:

I myself was wishing to tweak my impression this winter and besides my beautiful new gun from Gary have ordered a new sleeved waistcoat hence I was trying to do the breeches on the cheap.


Cheers
Neil


That won't b****y miss me next time. Wina MacPod makes well priced breeches. Ideal for the man about town.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:52 pm
by m300572
You're gonna have to get a bigger house for all your kit Johnston :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:54 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Does Ed make trews as well?

Cheers,
Henrik

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:32 pm
by Tod
Yes she does.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:33 pm
by Neil Johnston
Hey Peter as CO you know I "mislaid" a jacket a Prestonpans......I can't let stock levels drop.......I'm down to my last 5 jackets now you know!!!

Breeches at a reasonable price Tod........woollen too..... do tell more??
By the way is Ed still doing full foot tartan hose?

Henrik lots of braiding on the coat is so 1744 you know!!!! :lol:
Cheers
Neil

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:44 pm
by Henrik Bjoern Boegh
hehehe Are you insinuating that it would be out of fashion by 1745? :lol:

At some point I would love to have a tartan coat with some gold trimming along the edges, but for now the less bragging green one I've got on my green/brown short coat will do.

I'll have to check with Ed and find out how much she would charge for a pair of tartan trews... I'd love to get a pair. Would be great to have some warmer clothes for winter wear.

Cheers,
Henrik