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Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:16 pm
by Tod
I just need a basic reference as I'm portraying a late Victorian shoemaker later this year and have to get some clothing.

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:19 pm
by Miss Costello
Good pair of high backed trousers, collarless shirt. Really easy to get/make both. Leather soled boots or shoes. If you're a beginner, you can easily make a pair of Simplicitys high backed trousers, the pattern is so easy and in a piece of dark wook look good.
Sing out if you need links.

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:20 pm
by sally
http://www.art.co.uk/products/p40482927 ... osters.htm from a quick rummage round sounds like basic working class suit possibly with you working in yoru shirtsleeves might do the trick

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:38 pm
by Phil the Grips

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:06 pm
by Eve
Steve has stuff you could borrow, Tod. Give him a ring.

Eve

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:23 pm
by Tod
Miss Costello wrote:Good pair of high backed trousers, collarless shirt. Really easy to get/make both. Leather soled boots or shoes. If you're a beginner, you can easily make a pair of Simplicitys high backed trousers, the pattern is so easy and in a piece of dark wook look good.
Sing out if you need links.
Links would be good.
Eve, no doubt I'll speak to Steve ;-) But me being me I like to have my own stuff.

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:03 pm
by Miss Costello
http://www.habithat.co.uk/product_info. ... ts_id/8559 (not used this myself, but the trousers look ok.)

Looks like Simplicity hasve deleted that pattern, but there are some excellent ones on Nehelania!

http://www.neheleniapatterns.com/englis ... hsite.html

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:06 pm
by Eve
Tod - I now know why you and Steve are such good friends - alike is so many ways!

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:26 pm
by Grymm
Hit the ACW sutlers for trousers, shirts and waistcoats a jacket may be more tricky. Hats, well, you could wear a paper hat a la the carpenter from Alice, found several refs to them being worn by tradesmen generaly, not just printers or carpenters.

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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:56 pm
by Andy R
Tod wrote:I just need a basic reference as I'm portraying a late Victorian shoemaker later this year and have to get some clothing.
Before or after you have been drafted? :thumbup:

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:44 pm
by Lefty

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:01 pm
by nick19thind
West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:11 pm
by Nigel
nick19thind wrote:West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/
really tod dont touch sutlers with a bargepole

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:20 pm
by Type16
Got one for you !!

Amlwch bootmaker. On this web site - won't let me copy the image. Lots of other tradesmen etc to see.

http://www.amlwchhistory.co.uk/newdata/ ... maker.html

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:29 pm
by nick19thind
Nigel wrote:
nick19thind wrote:West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/
really tod dont touch sutlers with a bargepole
Sutlers is now defunct. The website has been taken over by a former employee called Nancy and reverted to its original name. In the past i had nothing but positive experience with sutlers. Although their stuff was expensive it always arrived on time and never let me down

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:19 pm
by Joolz
FLB Westernwear are just down the road from me, and I'm in there regularly. They always have something there to make me part with my money. Their stuff, however, is mainly aimed at the western re-enactment scene. However, it's not line-dancing tat - it's good quality if you want the convenience of off-the-peg in relatively authentic styles, although a lot of their clothes are more 'modern interpretation of' than 'period authentic' Victorian (and lots of cotton and not enough wool!). Denise, however, is a great, knowledgeable seamstress and can certainly 'do' authentic (some of her ladies' dresses are just wow). And Callum has a side line in good gunleather. Good, honest prices, too.

Joolz

Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:40 pm
by nick19thind
You could also modify modern clothing from the charity shops til you can afford the authentic stuff (though you'll have to buy high-backed trousers as quickly as possible as the modern types don't look right). For my Boer War impression i paid less than £50 for a complete outfit (£15 for the jacket, £4 for the shirt, £8 for the waistcoat and £20 for the hat). Look for stuff in dark grey or brown. You could buy a waistcoat and sew the points to the inside so the front is flat. Until you can get a proper pair of hobnail boots black desert boots or square-toed Chelsea boots (invented in the 1840s) are a cheap alternative. If you're lucky you may be able to find an original pullover "grandad" style shirt at a flea market (or simply buy a modern imitation and replace the plastic buttons with mother-of-pearl). Additionally the cut of certain types of tweed jacket have changed little since the 19th century. Look for a dark brown or grey one like this and replace the plastic buttons with ones made of wood or antler:
http://www.ewm.co.uk/Menswear/2008038/Product