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Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Tod » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:16 pm

I just need a basic reference as I'm portraying a late Victorian shoemaker later this year and have to get some clothing.



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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Miss Costello » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Good pair of high backed trousers, collarless shirt. Really easy to get/make both. Leather soled boots or shoes. If you're a beginner, you can easily make a pair of Simplicitys high backed trousers, the pattern is so easy and in a piece of dark wook look good.
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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Eve » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:06 pm

Steve has stuff you could borrow, Tod. Give him a ring.

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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Tod » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:23 pm

Miss Costello wrote:Good pair of high backed trousers, collarless shirt. Really easy to get/make both. Leather soled boots or shoes. If you're a beginner, you can easily make a pair of Simplicitys high backed trousers, the pattern is so easy and in a piece of dark wook look good.
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Links would be good.
Eve, no doubt I'll speak to Steve ;-) But me being me I like to have my own stuff.



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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Miss Costello » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:03 pm

http://www.habithat.co.uk/product_info. ... ts_id/8559 (not used this myself, but the trousers look ok.)

Looks like Simplicity hasve deleted that pattern, but there are some excellent ones on Nehelania!

http://www.neheleniapatterns.com/englis ... hsite.html



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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Eve » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:06 pm

Tod - I now know why you and Steve are such good friends - alike is so many ways!



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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Grymm » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:26 pm

Hit the ACW sutlers for trousers, shirts and waistcoats a jacket may be more tricky. Hats, well, you could wear a paper hat a la the carpenter from Alice, found several refs to them being worn by tradesmen generaly, not just printers or carpenters.

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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Andy R » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:56 pm

Tod wrote:I just need a basic reference as I'm portraying a late Victorian shoemaker later this year and have to get some clothing.


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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby nick19thind » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:01 pm

West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/


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Postby Nigel » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:11 pm

nick19thind wrote:West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/


really tod dont touch sutlers with a bargepole


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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Type16 » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:20 pm

Got one for you !!

Amlwch bootmaker. On this web site - won't let me copy the image. Lots of other tradesmen etc to see.

http://www.amlwchhistory.co.uk/newdata/ImageGallery/Amlwch%20Traders/slides/Richard%20Thomas%20bootmaker.html


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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby nick19thind » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:29 pm

Nigel wrote:
nick19thind wrote:West Point Sutlers used to do some excellent quality clothing (the first hat i bought from them has lasted almost 5 years) and still sell reasonably-priced authentic boots. Another good sutler is 19th century Sutlery, formerly known as the Sutlers' Stores

West Point:
http://www.westpointsutlers.org/
19th Century Sutlery:
http://www.sutlers.co.uk/


really tod dont touch sutlers with a bargepole

Sutlers is now defunct. The website has been taken over by a former employee called Nancy and reverted to its original name. In the past i had nothing but positive experience with sutlers. Although their stuff was expensive it always arrived on time and never let me down


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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby Joolz » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:19 pm

FLB Westernwear are just down the road from me, and I'm in there regularly. They always have something there to make me part with my money. Their stuff, however, is mainly aimed at the western re-enactment scene. However, it's not line-dancing tat - it's good quality if you want the convenience of off-the-peg in relatively authentic styles, although a lot of their clothes are more 'modern interpretation of' than 'period authentic' Victorian (and lots of cotton and not enough wool!). Denise, however, is a great, knowledgeable seamstress and can certainly 'do' authentic (some of her ladies' dresses are just wow). And Callum has a side line in good gunleather. Good, honest prices, too.

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Re: Basic late Victorian clothing

Postby nick19thind » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:40 pm

You could also modify modern clothing from the charity shops til you can afford the authentic stuff (though you'll have to buy high-backed trousers as quickly as possible as the modern types don't look right). For my Boer War impression i paid less than £50 for a complete outfit (£15 for the jacket, £4 for the shirt, £8 for the waistcoat and £20 for the hat). Look for stuff in dark grey or brown. You could buy a waistcoat and sew the points to the inside so the front is flat. Until you can get a proper pair of hobnail boots black desert boots or square-toed Chelsea boots (invented in the 1840s) are a cheap alternative. If you're lucky you may be able to find an original pullover "grandad" style shirt at a flea market (or simply buy a modern imitation and replace the plastic buttons with mother-of-pearl). Additionally the cut of certain types of tweed jacket have changed little since the 19th century. Look for a dark brown or grey one like this and replace the plastic buttons with ones made of wood or antler:
http://www.ewm.co.uk/Menswear/2008038/Product


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