Gordon's Strathbogie regiment

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IagotheHungry
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Gordon's Strathbogie regiment

Postby IagotheHungry » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:20 pm

Hi all.
I've been doing some research on this regiment, and I found a very detailed description of the colours they flew. Described thusly: "red rampant lion, having a crown of gold, above his head a C.R. for Charles Rex, having the motto “For God, the king, and against all traitors[or Trattouris if you go by Spalding]”, and beneath “God save the king”"

A lot of people seem to be arguing about the quality of Stuart Reid's book where this came from: "Scots Armies of the 17th Century part 3." and I can't really comment, though I am aware he's made the occasional error in his tiime, as have we all. On the whole I was told Osprey books were alright (maybe?).

It is also mentioned in John Spalding, "The History of the Troubles and Memorable Transactions in Scotland 1624-45", 1 st edition (1792) Vol.2, p.173. I know it's a late secondary source, and I wonder where he got this information from...

I wonder if anyone knows of it being mentioned anywhere else, any earlier than 1792?

If not, would you say these sources would be enough to be able to re-create the colours, without making too much of a leap into the realms of "making it up"? I know some groups have made colours on FAR less source material...

Cheers!

J


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Re: Gordon's Strathbogie regiment

Postby Sledge » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:06 am

http://www.caliverbooks.com/reenact/index.php

If you have a look on the above web site - it is Gordons regt in the Sealed Knot - they have loads of info, but if you can;t find what you want then email them because someone in the unit will probably have the info you are looking for


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Re: Gordon's Strathbogie regiment

Postby Neil Johnston » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:26 pm

Hi There Iago
Although Spalding was only published in the 1790s in book form as far as I am aware the manuscript dated from the 1640s/50s. I think that it is mentioned in the Introduction to the book. I don't think there is any doubt as to Spalding's Memorials being a contemporary document the last written record of his life is in the 1660s.
I am confident that the description of the colours of the Strathbogie regiment is correct.
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Neil

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Re: Gordon's Strathbogie regiment

Postby IagotheHungry » Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:29 pm

Brilliant! Thanks very much for the info guys, that's cleared a few blocks up and let me get on with my work a bit :) Just trying to piece together some sources and make a few notes, planning on writing a piece on the use and design of military colours.

Cheers!


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