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Sleeves and Mens Doublets and Jerkins

Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:31 am
by Tom Diccon
There has been ongoing debate, most recently leaning toward men being required to have jerkins and doublets, all with sleeves and with all sleeves sewn in, in the 14th - 16th c.

Phyllis Tortora in A Survey of Historic Costume has several references to both sleeveless doublets and laced in sleeves. I wonder if anyone knows why her views are discounted.

This link should take you to the relevant pages and references with some images demonstrating the variety of dress -

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uV4 ... es&f=false

Comments welcome.

Re: Sleeves and Mens Doublets and Jerkins

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 2:17 pm
by Mark Griffin
I clicked on the link, ignored the italian stuff and found the N european items. And immediately found an error. Whilst I'm not going to discount the whole lot due to one howler it didn't fill me with confidence.

but when you say 'men being required to have jerkins and doublets', when? where? what status? All makes a massive difference. Most costume historians would want to nail it down to a couple decades to be able to give decent answers.

Re: Sleeves and Mens Doublets and Jerkins

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 4:46 pm
by Tom Diccon
All middle and lower class men. Not sure what is being said for upper classes. 1580's -1600. English re-enactment.

Re: Sleeves and Mens Doublets and Jerkins

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 5:57 pm
by Mark Griffin
Your best sources for this by far are Janet Arnold and the range of books by The Tudor Tailor.

and ask

http://www.tudorgroup.co.uk/, the highest standards for this period anywhere

You might also want to look at

https://www.facebook.com/oldenglandgrownnew
http://www.danrosen-artisan.com/

Dan, does excellent stuff.