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Honourius III
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Last Pic from Bosworth.
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Another harness pendant. I can't remember what the heraldic name for the pointy stripe across it is though, and it is too badly corroded to see what is in the enamel. Has anyone thought of getting them analysed?

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guthrie wrote:Another harness pendant. I can't remember what the heraldic name for the pointy stripe across it is though,
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Ahh yes, thanks.
I now think it has 3 birds on it, facing to our left,of the crow variety. I don't suppose any obsessed Edwardian antiquary has catalogued the heradldry of everyone alleged to be at the battle of Bosworth? Harness pendants are apparently quite a high status thing to have, given the amount of metal and enamel required, so given they are usually have decoration of a heraldic theme, it would belong to at least minor nobility.
OFcourse it could have nothing to do with the battle at all and be there just because it fell from someones horse.

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Its the heraldry of Rhys ap Thomas
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Thats right! Thanks. So was he at the battle?

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yes, one of Tudor's principle supporters knighted afterwards by Henry in fact a biography of Rhys ap Thomas written about 1625 claimed it was he who actually struck down and killed Richard.
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Seems a pretty good connection then. I don't know that you'd have a harness pendant on your war horse, but why not?

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