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"Brigandine" question

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:46 pm
by son of a dragon
Hi all,
I'm sure we've all seen Braveheart (and laughed/cried at its inaccuracies), i have a question about the "brigandine" worn by Gibson (and others), it looks as though its made using flat plates which don't overlap. I've also seen them worn in a couple of documentaries but my question is - did this style of "brigandine" ever really exist? I can't find any info on this style, does anyone else have any ideas about them?
Thanks.

Re: "Brigandine" question

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:06 pm
by Andreas
Not sure what it looks like in the film.

I would look into coat-of-plates if I was you. Starting 1230/40ish and reaching into the early 15th century.

Re: "Brigandine" question

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:19 pm
by Jim
Flat plates which don't overlap....sounds suspicious. You wouldn't generally want any kind of gap between your plates - an incoming blade will potentially skim across the plate until it finds the gap and would then plunge through it into the wearer's flesh, which kinda defeats the point of armour and is the reason all the armour I think I've ever seen has overlaps or "laminates". Bearing in mind such overlaps add weight and bulk, they wouldn't be there without good reason.

I'd call "Wang!" on this, personally, but would be both surprised and perfectly happy with being proved wrong. :*

Re: "Brigandine" question

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:30 pm
by Colin Middleton
I'm with Andreas on this, I think that they're suppoesed to be a coat-of-plates, but are a very cheap-ass impersonation of one.

Re: "Brigandine" question

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:22 pm
by son of a dragon
Thanks guys, that's pretty much what i thought, just wanted to check in case i was missing something.

Re: "Brigandine" question

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:36 pm
by KedlestonCraig
yeah some of the Wisby finds look as if they don't overlap (like Gibson's) but closer inspection shows small overlap