A Gallery of Helmet Adornments and Crests

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A Gallery of Helmet Adornments and Crests

Postby *Mythos » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:29 am

We all love to show off our top end clothing and equipment in full pageantry.

Add your helmet crest, too.

Traquair 2008. helmet 2.jpg
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Postby *Mythos » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:36 am

I take the liberty of adding Bonnacon's crest to the Gallery.

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Postby bonnacon » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:43 pm

Lovely job Mythos!!


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Postby *Mythos » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:15 pm

I like the inventive approach to the "flames", Sir John, and the impressive mantle: obviously, a great deal of work has gone into this.



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Postby Sir John Greystoke » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:20 pm

thanks It took a lot of thought and help from a friend to make the beacon. but all good fun. glad someone's started this thread be nice to see what other people have made



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Postby bonnacon » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:07 pm

Impressive, Sir John ! See you at Pensthorpe ?


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Postby Sir John Greystoke » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:55 pm

sadly tristen wont be making it, I am playing with my band all the weekend its a shame I loved that show mite try to go to rochester (SP) not sure yet really depends on the cash flow



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Postby WorkMonkey » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:32 am

Well it is a crested helm...
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Postby Earl Mortimer » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:06 am

WorkMonkey wrote:Well it is a crested helm...



That's a cracking helmat. The pattern and brass work
is really nice


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Postby WorkMonkey » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:02 pm

Ah well thank you, it's one of only two copies of the Valsgarde 8 helm done to a reasonable standard of reproduction that I'm aware of.


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Postby chrisanson » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:15 pm

it IS very nice, i put a dent in it :oops:



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Postby bonnacon » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:28 pm

Looks hideously expensive ?
Not my period so tell me about the Valsgarde 8 helm please!


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Postby WorkMonkey » Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:06 pm

Was wonderfully cheap. Made by Thorkil, this was the first helm with full decorative plates that he made, I gave him alot of the specifications and diagrams so I got it for a good price. I think he's selling them for twice what I paid for it, I got it for just over £600 with shipping.

It's very much in the same vain as the sutton hoo helm, as you can see when you compare the sutton hoo panoply with contemporary swedish ones, there's alot of similar themes and designs in the artistic elements (crests,plates,eyebrows etc) such as birds of prey, dragons, men on horseback etc. It was found at Uppsala in Sweden in the 1920's I think, along with several other very high status graves which probably represented the local royal family from early to mid 6thC AD with the Valsgarde 8, upto I think the 11th C AD, there were several helms of this type of design found at the site, and more at the Vendel grave yard nearby, they're all constructionally different, some have full mail curtains like mine, some have rear mail curtains, and some have metal strips at the neck, the way the bowl of the helmet is constructed is usually unique to the individual as well, the designs are also different on the plates, ranging from similar themes like men on horseback riding down falling warriors to bare chested men fighting bears. Some only have interlace patterns on the plates, If the designs on the plates had some kind of individual symblism it's lost on us but they're likely pagan heroic stories or symbols, but nearly all of them feature the spectacle type features you see on mine. The look of this style of helm with the mail curtain and spectacles is very close to some of the eastern roman heavy cavalry you see in the late empire, seems likely that a group or north germans saw eastern heavy horse in action and how devastating it was while serving the empire then decided to take the idea home, I think the idea of horseback combat was very important to these people, not only because of the amount of very nice horse harness gear that's found in the graves but also because of the amount of horse warrior symbolism on the helms. In this way we see a stark difference from these earlier scandanavian warriors from the later Anglo-Saxons and vikings, who seem to have only used Horses to getting too and from places.

This is the original Image

This is the repro
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Beautiful work, very helpful, great service, loves trying new things, can't praise him enough.

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Postby bonnacon » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:42 pm

Tremendous - thanks for the info - always fascinating to see and share eh :D


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Postby *Mythos » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:49 am

Rene d'Anjou's treatise on The Tournament, showing the contestants' helmets with crests display (it opens in colour)


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Postby Andreas » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:23 pm

This is a fantastic thread. Really enjoy your crests, guys!


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Postby Rod Walker » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:01 am

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Postby *Mythos » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:15 pm

Two splendid crested helms, Rod. I reckon it must be Australia as the sun is shining.



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Postby wyldstallions » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:38 pm

Rod Walker wrote:Image


Did it hurt when the crow flew into the back of your head?

Sorry couldn't resist, :oops:


by the way I'm really jealous of your armour, it looks great



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Postby john mackay » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:35 pm

These look great! Where`s your one Mythos?



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Postby *Mythos » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:16 pm

Actually, my crest is the very first one shown under this discussion heading.



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Re: A Gallery of Helmet Crests

Postby Karen Larsdatter » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:07 am

More medieval crests at http://larsdatter.com/crests.htm -- but here's my friend Kevin's.

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(Sorry, that's the best photo I have of it; it's a golden bear on a cap of maintenance. More photos from that particular tournament are up at http://picasaweb.google.com/StrawberryK ... lePelerine too.)



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Postby *Mythos » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:11 pm

An excellent reference, Karen.

Amongst the contemporary pictures illustrating crests, there has to be the most ridiculous one ever produced...or perhaps not. One wonders if the bird was alive.

Birdcage Crest.jpg
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Postby Renau » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:49 am

I know this is not a crest but it's close(ish)!
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Postby *Mythos » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:15 am

I am constantly amazed at how much effort we re-enactors put into our pastime and your helmet decoration shows just that, Renau, along with a degree of skill in achieving such a good result on what amounts to a very difficult decoration surface. Thanks for that.

In recognition of the fact that the topic has widened somewhat from my original posting, I have changed the header for this thread to incorporate all helmet decoration.

I hope people will continue to share their efforts and show us all their wonderful creations.



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Postby Daniel Ezra » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:29 am

Dear Work Monkey:

Is that what is sometimes called the Sigurd Helmit?



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Postby john mackay » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:50 pm

HI
Thats strange Mithos cause i thought your banner was black and white with a lyon.

Have you Changed your colours and crest?
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Postby john mackay » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:20 am

If of course like me am not good at making crest you can get it done be a Professional I met this guy at a Prince`s trust dinner his name is Ian G Brennan he has been a Heraldic Sculptor for over twenty years, as you can see by the pics below his work is very good and the waiting list isnt very long he quoted me for my crest about 8 months.
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Postby narvek » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:41 pm

Nice one John! Would you put his details here? Or PM.
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