Jean le Maingre - 'Boucicault'.

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Jean le Maingre - 'Boucicault'.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:35 pm

Having nobody to play with and no re-enactment events at present, boo hoo :cry: :wink: , I decided to finally get around to having some photos taken of my early 15th century kit, namely my portrayal of Jean le Maingre - 'Boucicault', the Marshal nominally in charge of the French troops at Agincourt 1415.

For inspiration, I based my French style jupon on an illustration in Osprey's Campaign series book - Agincourt 1415 "Triumph against the odds". The arms & armour I researched.

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Some more pics.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:39 pm

A few more pics.
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Postby Felix » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:44 pm

Great to see this fantastic helmet in action.
What do you wear beneath the coat of arms and why do you carry your sword on the right, when your obviously right handed?



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Boucicault.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:59 pm

Many thanks Felix.

I wore my padded aketon, riveted maille shirt and a 9 piece segmented Churburg breastplate.

Hee hee, i am lefthanded.



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Other personas.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:33 pm

Some pics of my other medieval personas:

William le Scrope - King and Lord of Mann in 1392
Henry Percy - 1st Earl of Northumberland - king & lord of Mann in 1399
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Postby Fox » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:44 am

Sweet! 8)



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Postby Phil the Grips » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:52 am

Nice to see bits of my kit put to good use :)


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Postby Stuart Quayle » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:34 pm

Cheers Fox! :D

Ah, you recognise the polehammer Phil, had it rehafted, languets added and the head sharpened up just that little bit more. The hammerhead was a superb piece to work with, even has a nice etched Oak leaf on the underside of the rear fluke! Classy 8)

Phil - could you remind me please who made the hammerhead?



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Postby Phil the Grips » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:01 pm

Paul Macdonald of Edinburgh had the head cast up at a local foundry. The oakleaf is my emblem so I had it engraved on all my weapons at that time.


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Postby Gerald ye Herald » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:27 pm

Great pics and kit, shields look like Bonnacons?


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Postby Matt Easton » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:32 pm

A bit of trivia for you - Boucicault fought two duels against Galeazzo Gonzaga da Mantova, Capitano di Grumello - the first was a draw (with spears on foot), the second he lost (with lances on horseback). As a result of losing the second duel he swore to never wear a helmet again (though we presume he did not stick to this oath, or he probably would have got an arrow in the head at Agincourt).

Galeazzo was the star student of Fiore dei Liberi, who wrote the treatise Fior di Battaglia which I translated and teach from weekly at Schola Gladiatoria. :)
More info here: http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/fiore/

So I guess I should stick on my circa-1405 harness and we should have a fight. :lol:

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Kit & Boucicault.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:12 pm

Many thanks Gerald, yes absolutely correct shields by Bonnacon ... can attest to their lovely quality hee hee and yes I have a few of em!

Hee hee, thanks for the offer of single combat with poleaxe Matt ... I think I'll have to pass on that as you might possess a very slight advantage (i.e. you know what you are doing with a lethal knightly weapon like that and I don't). But many thanks for the link as I am keen to find out exactly how you do fight with such a weapon and read up on whatever I can.

I would love to see some pics of your circa 1405 harness as your avatar looks good. It would be good to start a new thread where us bods could show off our individual kit and 'alter egos', I am sure there is some lovely kit and personas out there.

Loved those facts about Jean le Maingre, one of my heroes. To add to them here are some more facts: Boucicault had been fighting since he was a page, was taken on his first campaign at the age of twelve. He was knighted on the eve of his first battle at the age of sixteen. He had fought with the Teutonic knights in the crusades against the Lithuanians. In addition he had fought in Spain, the Balkans and the Middle East. These tidbits courtesy of Ian Mortimer's fine tome -- "the Fears of Henry IV". Mortimer also says that at the famous jousts at St. Inglevert Boucicault confidently strode out to meet John Holland earl of Huntingdon in single combat, Boucicault sporting his new motto on his arms "Whatever you want!" I think I would have been somewhat worried :shock:



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Postby Matt Easton » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:44 pm

He was certainly 'the man'. Sources of the time claim he could climb up the underneath of a siege ladder in armour and vault his horse similarly harnessed. He got into the two duels with Galeazzo largely because he was cocky though - as Governor of Genoa he made the unfortunate claim that he could defeat any Italian knight in single combat, and then failed to win either of the fights... Also, he wasn't exactly lucky being captured by the Turks in 1396 at Nicopolis and then again by the English in 1415..

I don't have a full photo with all my armour on unfortunately - this is a photo I have during a fitting session, but of course I'm missing the bascinet and spaulders, not to mention mail voiders. And my arm harness is a bit different now (and I shaved the beard off!!):

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Postby Thomas Hayman » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:19 pm

Wonderful kit, both of you. It's a shame more don't have kit of that standard.

Stuart you need to:

A: Move to the mainland!
B: Get a horse


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Boucicault.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:36 pm

Lovely harness Matt thanks for posting the pic, looks a very good fit on you which is a BIG plus point! Love the breastplate (Churburg #14?) with faulds and the arms look fantastic. The only thing you could add to those is brass edging, which I need to do on mine.

Hee hee Thomas, two very good points, it would be wonderful to be able to travel relatively cheaply and quickly to re-enactment events (no not by travelling to them on horse ... but now you mention it ... low carbon footprint, cheap fuel) :lol:

BTW: how are your riding lessons going?



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Postby Matt Easton » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:42 pm

Thanks Stuart. I decided against brass edging partly because I didn't want to look too high status and partly because only about half of the brasses I was modelling my harness on had edging anyway.
The cuirass is not modelled on a particular example, but is rather an amalgim of various very similar brasses from about 1410-1415. For example:
http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery2/ ... temId=6761

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Early 15th century harness.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:53 pm

Ah, that makes sense Matt - thanks. I see what you mean when you begin to compare the English harnesses on your effigies site, close fitting, generally lacking in decoration, very plain, except for the the highly fluted and decorated elbow couters and besagews.

Very useful effigies site, shall have a good look through that - Cheers! 8)




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