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by Man from Coventry
Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:53 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Billmen - myth?
Replies: 273
Views: 31782

Back to the topic then. There are two questions here a) did significant numbers of individuals armed with bills fight b) did they fight in distinct bill units in either the 100yrs war or the WOTR. For 100yrs war in the accounts of the battles I've read there the accounts tend to refer to only men-at...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:30 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Billmen - myth?
Replies: 273
Views: 31782

indeed, one of those being Salisbury. Richard Neville, (Earl of Salisbury) only served for one campaigning season (1436), so his military experience in the HYW was limited as was Audley's who served in the 1420's for a year. Dudley had seen service in Ireland. The Earl of Salisbury who was justifia...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:56 pm
Forum: Book, Film, TV & Music Reviews
Topic: The Yorkist Age
Replies: 1
Views: 587

Like all of Paul Murray's Kendalls books this is extremely readable, whilst he is criticised for filling the gaps in places, he doe give a good feel for the period.
by Man from Coventry
Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:58 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Billmen - myth?
Replies: 273
Views: 31782

Men - at - arms & archers. Men-at-arms - I would take a man at arms to be an individual with a fair degree of armour (half armour or equivalent +) whose primary function was to fight hand to hand on horseback or more commonly on foot. Typically the majority of men-at-arms do seem to be drawn from es...
by Man from Coventry
Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:26 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Billmen - myth?
Replies: 273
Views: 31782

Coventry Leet Book In the early 1450's the city authorities called on each citizen of standing to provide between 1-4 sets of armour (jack or mail shirt), bow, helmet and 20 arrows for the defence of the city and clearly bows would be of more use for defending the walls. On melee weapons it is lacki...
by Man from Coventry
Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:46 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

May I therefore put in a plea to battle organisers for a dress rehearsal as part of the commanders' meetings ? It really, REALLY works! A walk over has been an integral part of many WOTRF events, however I have to say that they haven't generally yielded great results as the attendees generally grou...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:25 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

Henry VI as royal blue and white would make an obvious contrast I take it your affection for Blue & White has nothing to do with these being the glorious Beaufort colours Ghost ? Finally, I think having 'scenery' on the battlefield helps greatly to make the show both more interesting for the public...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:29 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

Man from Coventry wrote: The closest there is to a generic lancastrian livery is that of the young Prince of Wales. Red and black, with either a single ostrich feather or a single ostrich feather held in the beak of a fettered swan.This was used at 2nd St Albans, Towton & poss Blore Heath, Wakefiel...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:46 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

In respect of generic bends and liverys this was discussed in some depth approx 9 months ago, in the "WOTR allegiances" thread. The closest there is to a generic lancastrian livery is that of the young Prince of Wales. Red and black, with either a single ostrich feather or a single ostrich feather h...
by Man from Coventry
Wed May 28, 2008 2:34 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: What is known about Late Medival battlefield Combat?
Replies: 45
Views: 6940

Except most people would be relatively well off folk from the artisan and mercantile class so unsused to being in the rural trades (maybe why Foresters etc were prized troops in a fray- just as gamekeepers were in WWII) and likely to have never seen a bill, let alone hefted one, especially not in a...
by Man from Coventry
Wed May 28, 2008 9:55 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

Alot of this ground has already been covered within the "How to do Battles better" thread in General history and I'd refer to the comments I made then at the head of Page 9. The reenactors want a good, meaty, long scrap. The public want entertainment, deaths, woundings and desertion. In short, a bit...
by Man from Coventry
Tue May 27, 2008 5:35 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

Jim: yes, maybe it could work BUT it would turn the battle into child's play. When I'm on the battlefield, I portray a soldier. So I think like soldier. Which means, stick together with a rest of mates and stab, slash, massacre every guy who is on the other side. What we are doing is playing and pu...
by Man from Coventry
Tue May 27, 2008 3:21 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

The problem is that whilst I agree this is the way it should work a) in practice it does not work, people don't always take their hits, particularly from arrows and we would been having this debate if people did. b) some casualties have to be from imaginary fire where (thankfully) no real hit is inc...
by Man from Coventry
Tue May 27, 2008 2:41 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Safe, authentic, entertaining battles.
Replies: 137
Views: 18685

Our period is also a little more complicated than the later musket periods, in that our casualties are derived from both "real" close quarter fighting and missile fire, both "real" (arrows) and imaginary (gunfire). Later periods i.e napoleonic tend to have more "imaginary" fire. You would not want a...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:09 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Battle of Worksop - 1459 - 1460?
Replies: 35
Views: 6382

There are hordes of them but here are a few off the top of my head (apologies if the dates are wrong) here are a few; Assorted skirmishes between Calais & Guines - 1459 - 1460 - Warwick/Beaufort. Siege of Carreg Cennen - 1461 - superb castle but utterly impossible for a large re-enactment. Tunbridge...
by Man from Coventry
Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: WOTR Alleigences.
Replies: 76
Views: 10467

I didn't really make myself clear on this point and I confused two points in my last post - field signs and bends. In respect of field signs I am not aware of them being referred to and by implication used during the wars of the roses, though as an old idea it was quite possible that they were. I'm ...
by Man from Coventry
Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:37 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: WOTR Alleigences.
Replies: 76
Views: 10467

Finally in respect of the Lancastrian and Yorkist bends. Here are my suggestions. Lancastrian - A red & black bend, with the badge of the Prince of Wales a single white ostrich feather either on it own own or held erect by the beak of a fettered swan was worn at Blore Heath and St Albans II and pos...
by Man from Coventry
Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:52 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: WOTR Alleigences.
Replies: 76
Views: 10467

Cleggy

Salisbury's (yorkist commanders) livery was red and black so you don't need to change.

If you want to go for that added level of authenticity you can add his badge conjectured to be a green or gold "griffin sejant" as the early staffs did in '92
by Man from Coventry
Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:34 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: WOTR Alleigences.
Replies: 76
Views: 10467

To answer Marcus's original question about household allegiances. relatively few households or city contingents were "loyal" to one side or the other for the entire Wars of the Roses, and no household was present at every battle, there were periods when many households either held no allegiance, or ...
by Man from Coventry
Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:40 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Re-enactment groups in Warwick Uni Area
Replies: 14
Views: 3387

You may be interested to know that there was a Warwick Household run out of Warwick University in the early 1990's. Many of it members still re-enact as part of two Wars of the Roses Federation groups. Stafford Household and Coventry's Company. I don't think you can get more local than the latter as...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:13 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Best medieval re-enactment battle in Britain
Replies: 35
Views: 5088

I have to concur with Andreas Blore and Bosworth would be my favourites, with Blore a slight leader and this years event is a mere two weeks away ! It's a big event, with a small event feel to it, clients who push the boat out for you, innovative creative script and end of term feel. Noticeably thes...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:18 am
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Craig 1459 "I've got a suggestion for the management of death in a battle - the Black Household (the scenario below assumes a three-push battle model) One large household, or combination of smaller households, is elected at the start as the Black Household. They are split into two and then told to g...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:18 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Reading through the latest entries it would seem that one of my comments has been taken at little out of context. I stated that many battles did not work, because there was no inclination on the part of many of the participants to follow the scripts or to put on an entertaining display for the publi...
by Man from Coventry
Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:07 am
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Craig - now you've appended a photo I do recall seeing you at a distance at Blore this weekend. Alot of good stuff at the weekend, but Allan was to a large degree preaching to the converted, as it was only generally the keener members who took part. Marcus - this is all good stuff but as tonw says t...
by Man from Coventry
Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:39 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Just to add to what Shoggoth had to say. If we weren't bothered about putting on any kind of display - why do we do events at historic venues, if all we are interested in is doing it purely as a hobby with no display element why aren't we all in the SCA ? The point I am trying to get across is that ...
by Man from Coventry
Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:10 am
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Craig 1473 - To answer your question Yes & No. I think there are sufficent people within the Fed who are capable of carrying out the roles. However, whether there are sufficient people who are willing to take on the roles is a different matter. Ideally you need a larger pool of individuals than the ...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:56 pm
Forum: Pictures
Topic: Blore Heath
Replies: 18
Views: 6045

used to be in the Levy many years ago and spent many a singalonga camp with the Staffords! Mind you the singalong was in the old days with Mark Hinsley and the ever present song book! those were the days! :shock:[/quote] Mark is still on the scene, (though he parted with the Staffords 10 + yrs ago d...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:25 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

Corrections to above should be 1 overall commander a side so two in total. To continue in the same vein 4. Poor Communication of script - this is a real problem, in my experience a) the script is frequently not included with warning orders b) Warning orders are often issued very late by organizing b...
by Man from Coventry
Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:03 am
Forum: General History
Topic: How to improve battles?
Replies: 313
Views: 44072

To return to the topic of how to make battles better. Unfortunately I've arrived somewhat late to this discussion, but would make a few points on what people said earlier. 1. People should die and no just at the end of the battle - This is fine from the MOP's point of view but most re-enactors have ...