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Jenn wrote:yup but only if I can use the other bolelyn girl as my sole reference for Tudor clothes
hmm green polyester

What, not "The Tudors"?

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There used to bre free patterns for Victorian bits and pieces on this site - as a banner advert. Goodness knows how you find it without going through every one though..........

Gottit!

http://www.tudorlinks.com/treasury/index.html

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Bum/hip roll(3 padded nana shapes linked together) under tabs pads it and gives you that 'avast behind' look. Seconded mit the tab thing.......eh?! http://www.antiquecorsetgallery.com/article.php?article=30 http://www.chs.org/textiles/found_acc.htm http://members.localnet.com/~barnwood/stayspics.ht...

Hi to everyone who makes corsets. Have a look at this pic: http://www.mantua-maker.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1700-1-stays-side-photo.jpg I'm not saying a word. The blurb says that she copies extant garments and simplyfies them unless it affects the overall shape. Let's put it like ...

My comment was not to be taken seriously

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This is a bit special - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0211219451

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Me too - pretty, pretty (not)!

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BTW, sorry I didn't have chance to talk to you properly at TORM........twas a bit manic, one way and another :wink: Don't worry about it - I was escorting an American (SCA - shhsh) friend, who was open mouthed at the range of stuff available, and I wasn't able to spend time with the people I wanted...

Interesting - I always finish sleeves before sewing in, then neaten lining at the armhole seam.

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I don't know that pattern, but I wouldn't use one pattern to fit that range of dates. I'd still love to know her source for the information - never come across it elsewhere.

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Yikes, of course you're right, what was I thinking - my bad. Of course, we're neglecting the gentlemen... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Reenactment-Larp-Renaissance-medieval-Nobles-Shirt_W0QQitemZ290218684602QQihZ019QQcategoryZ313QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Oh, I love this one - I'm going to watc...

I'd still like to know what the original "of the shelf" pattern was, so that we can perhaps discover the source of the suggestion to pad the tabs. Someone may have research to prove it, in which case we could all be in for a surprise.

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High necked smock-type garments seem to have become popular (i.e. appear in paintings) around the 1540's, and eventually have frills which appear to develop into fully fledged ruffs. As a "townswoman" I wear a high necked smock under my gown, as I don't want to wear a ruff - I have a scar on my neck...

It reminds me of those gold foil wrapped toffees - Quality Street?

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Pretty much what Tuppence says, with the addition - I have made the Duchess of Richmond stays, and the 18th century stays, although not the Effigy stays. However, there are subtle differences in the direction of the boning which makes an equally subtle difference to the body shaping. I do agree that...

's interesting how many of the commercial paper patterns resemble those in "Corsets and Crinolines"/Hunnisett/Arnold isn't it?

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Conservation staff at the Museum of London use plain, cold de "naturised"/"ionised"? water, and leave things to soak. Do not rub, but move gently up and down occasionally. Remove from water, do not wring. Leave to dry on a towel (white of course), and turn occasionally. I suggest you draw a template...

I do not think I have seen this kind of check used as early as Regency - later, say the 1830's, it turns up quite often. Interestingly, a check like gingham is to be found in Barbara Johnson's Album - a facsimile is/was available - which is late 18th and early 19th century. Sally, I am about to put ...

Hi S. I was just doing a bit of lateral thinking, y'know. In some modern patterns for making repro corsets they say to pad the tassetts. In them thar days ladies would have worn a big bum roll to get the same effect. But it saves the modern person from having to make and wear yet another item of cl...

Or could it be that you are not looking at stays of the 1700's, but stays of the 1600's? Because during the earlier century your tassetts could be padded to give a nice swelling over the hips all the way round the body. Interesting. I've not seen padded tabs on 17th century stays either, although I...

[quote="sally"} I've definately seen knitted ones, the ones with one or two sliding rings in the middle to get at the opening right? Got plans for doing those too! They are gentleman's accessories arent they, I didnt think they were something women carried from what I've read.[/quote] I was always u...

Tuppence wrote:Absolutely on the beads - there's also the variation that's double ended that I can't remember the name of (helpfully - sorry).

Would that be a "miser's purse"? or guinea purse? Sally, I have one of those, but I don't think it's knitted -you may see it differently.

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Definitely beads, seeds (one in America I've seen with pumkin seeds), wavy lines in mixed colours, (this is popular in shawls as well) and of course there is always the pineapple, as you say!!

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Nope - they're right - but they're not 18th century. Early stayes had separate tabs - by the 18th c they were cut as one with the body. What she said. The shape is different, so the weight distribution of skirts is also different. The tabs work well for 16th century, but not for later. I've also se...

I haven't seen padding in the tabs of any sets of original stays that I have seen - what pattern are you using? I actually saw a pair a year or so ago where you could see the inside, as the lining had come away - nope, no padding. If the bones go through from above the waist to below, and do not cut...

Jean Hunnisett "Period Costume for Stage and Screen Outer Garments Book ll" has patterns for pelisses, coats, spencers and other outer garments (obviously). The patterns are taken from original garments, but the instructions are modern. There is a pattern for a scarlet silk pelisse of 1817 which has...

You can age fabric by using a cheese grater where you want bits to fray - i.e. knees, elbows, collar, cuffs. The coarser holes are best. I was going to suggest fullers' earth for mud, but you seem to be able to produce that yourself. A little, repeat little, shoe polish, preferably clear, rubbed on ...

At a guess that pelisse is probably from the 1820's. The fullness at the sleeve head is an indicator.

The fabric is probably a fine wool, or a silk - difficult to tell from the picture. Hopefully Frances will be able to give us some more details.

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One of the best places to look for examples of printed textiles in this period is http://www.amazon.com/Toiles-Jouy-Judit ... 158685156X

There are some really busy patterns and extraordinary bright colours in it.

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As the book is in copyright, I need e-mail addresses. It is illegal and against copyright law to share printed matter in public.

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