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by DanceswithCows
Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:44 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

Colin Middleton wrote:
DanceswithCows wrote: Didn't think it would be so hard :crazy:


It's not. You're the only one who appears to be struggling with it.

Colin


Yes, I am, is that a crime of some kind round here?
by DanceswithCows
Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:06 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

Yes if you pick out individual statements from what Ranulph says it can go either way, hence my seeking clarity. Didn't think it would be so hard :crazy:
by DanceswithCows
Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:36 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Best way to start learning to joust
Replies: 61
Views: 12180

Re: Best way to start learning to joust

ahhh, brilliant thanks, will try to remember that if I meet any proper jousters! I'm more familiar with the pantomime type!
by DanceswithCows
Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:19 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: Best way to start learning to joust
Replies: 61
Views: 12180

Re: Best way to start learning to joust

Mark Griffin wrote:harness £6-30k



:wtf: I'm only familiar with 'harness' in terms of draught, what is jousting harness?
by DanceswithCows
Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:00 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

a) Why would oxen have their own names? As Brother Ranulf said earlier, they are just a type of cattle, not a separate species. It's the same way that we don't have different names for female rouncies and sumpters, because with all their differences, they're both horses. b) You said that there is n...
by DanceswithCows
Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:49 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

Fox, I don't believe collars had a lot to do with the change from oxen to horses. I've got reams of material on the subject but I put it into a user-friendly format in my book - Man's Forgotten Friend: A History of the Ox. It's on Amazon, only a tenner! :D
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:20 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Re: Peasant women outerwear?

Also, there is the teensy size differential between us!!
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:18 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Re: Peasant women outerwear?

I know but it's one thing doing it yourself and another lending to someone and then Ted steps on it and rips it right up the middle or something! :D
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:57 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

OK, I have looked at that and I'm not seeing what you are seeing: - You still have not explained why in your opinion there are no terms within this special race of draught cattle for the breeding & young stock. We have terms for horses - mare, filly, colt, stallion, etc. and we have terms for co...
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:38 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

sorry, who would be persuaded by what?
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:17 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Re: Peasant women outerwear?

brilliant, arisaid fits the bill and is very doable - I liked the overgown idea but it seemed very open at the neck for very cold blowy wet weather! :worried: Also a lot more intricacy than my seamstress would like at this stage of play! Thanks for the offer of borrowing but I daren't, I have to han...
by DanceswithCows
Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:11 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I think you would have to be reading it rather out of context to make that interpretation. I have underlined rather more than you bolded, to bring in the full context of what the Brother wrote. To paraphrase: The distinct modern breeds did not exist, selective breeding was unknown. Different local ...
by DanceswithCows
Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:56 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I would if that was my point. :^)
by DanceswithCows
Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:01 am
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I have done very real research and I find it extremely odd that you dispute that people ate oxen on a regular basis :crazy: I can give you a list of sources as long as your arm for that! The clue to the dominance of the ox at the time is in the contrast between them and horses - they had more all-ro...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:39 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I repeat: Your question about the "common types of cattle" reflects the view of many people today that there were "breeds" in the modern sense - there were definitely not. Selective breeding was unknown; you simply had the type of animal available in and suited to your own locali...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:15 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I don't see how any of that contradicts what I've said? They were treated differently because they played different roles, not because they were separate breeds, races or species. How do you explain the lack of terms for ox breeding and youngstock?
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:01 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

I have been waiting weeks for someone to ask that question!!! Take a look at the Winchester Pipe Roll mentioned above and you will see that cattle and oxen are treated as two entirely different beasts. Not really: breeding stock are bulls or cows, youngstock and babies have a label, and nonbreeding...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:56 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

Interesting. Not quite what I have come across though, and I have done much research on the subject. Oxen are cattle as we understand the term (not a separate species), and breeding specifically for work oxen seems extremely rare in this country, as few male animals could have just sat around growin...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:31 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Re: Peasant women outerwear?

thanks very much! I'm not actually sure if I'm scottish or english in this, it's more of a stunt show than authentic re enactment but I don't like to let the side down if possible! I guess we'll say english, having my english cattle nicked 8-) the gowns seem quite voluminous - relieved about the glo...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:17 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Re: Peasant women outerwear?

thanks - any pictures of the gown to go on?
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:31 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: 13th C. Farm
Replies: 59
Views: 10552

Re: 13th C. Farm

Your question about the "common types of cattle" reflects the view of many people today that there were "breeds" in the modern sense - there were definitely not. Selective breeding was unknown; you simply had the type of animal available in and suited to your own locality (many ...
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:08 pm
Forum: Book, Film, TV & Music Reviews
Topic: The Musketeers BBC
Replies: 45
Views: 9150

Re: The Musketeers BBC

I can happily throw out historical accuracy for the sake of looking lush on screen and a good story, but this was just dull dull dull. I was looking forward to loving it but *yawn* cliche after cliche after cliche.
by DanceswithCows
Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:41 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Peasant women outerwear?
Replies: 13
Views: 4517

Peasant women outerwear?

I'm providing cattle to be reived at a Border Reiver event again this year but whereas last year it was Julyish, this time it's March and will be a bit chilly! I'm struggling to find what a poor dairymaid/peasant girl would wear as outerwear during this period...most people seem happy to wander abou...
by DanceswithCows
Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:52 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Medieval and Tudor sheep breeds
Replies: 6
Views: 3001

Re: Medieval and Tudor sheep breeds

We had plenty else to talk about at the time freeholder :wink: Bit of a size difference between soay and shetland/portland though. Shetlands is what I was thinking - certainly nothing like a cotswold today! I think they had the right idea back then: I certainly prefer clipping our shetlandX kerry hi...
by DanceswithCows
Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:07 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Medieval and Tudor sheep breeds
Replies: 6
Views: 3001

Medieval and Tudor sheep breeds

What were sheep like back then? I can't seem to find a definitive answer, things only seem to concrete up after Bakewell did his thing. I saw on the time traveller's guide to elizabethan england that sheep were 20kgs full grown - that puts them squarely in primitive territory - soay, hebridean etc b...
by DanceswithCows
Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:03 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Sign posts?
Replies: 2
Views: 1237

Re: Sign posts?

Ooo! My family is thought to be responsible for the oldest surviving 'fingerpost' in the country, known as Joseph Izod's Fingerpost in Chipping Camden! I'm a ye olde transport geek and never thought anyone would be interested in that little claim to fame :D it dates back to 1669, but that's just the...

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